Talk:Brown's Hotel

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:04, 5 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

Factual Error: Ford family could not have bought the hotel as claimed

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The article indicates that Henry Ford and his family bought the hotel in 1859 and, along with modernizing the hotel's amenities, combined it with St. George's Hotel in 1889. This is historically impossible. Henry Ford was born to a poor family in 1863 and did not even start the Ford Motor Company until 1903. http://www.hfmgv.org/exhibits/hf/chrono.asp.Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). This particular claim seems to be drawn from Brown's Hotel's own informational brochures and should not be relied upon. Sleepyjl (talk) 18:42, 8 April 2010 (UTC)Reply


I was about to write something about the Henry Ford claim, and then noticed it had already been highlighted. It's clearly crap. The Ford family were not wealthy, but were poor immigrant farmers.

This highlights how questionable it is to rely on one website for the article's information, especially when that website is just a hotel brochure. I am going to remove the claim and it should not be reinserted unless someone can find a proper source. BearAllen (talk) 20:19, 16 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

Neutrality

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The interior section of this article reads like a brochure. It does not just note the hotels features and amenities, but tries to show them in a very positive light. Is this section really noteworthy/necessary?

193.176.235.94 (talk) 14:42, 1 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
The first paragraph is obviously an addition, cut and pasted from official publicity material, so why not just delete it, as I have? Abberley2 (talk) 15:55, 1 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Oldest hotel?

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The intro stated (before my edit of 1st july 2010) that this is the oldest hotel in London. This may be true, but the source in the references section clearly states: 'The Rocco Forte Brown's Hotel dates back to 1837, which makes it the oldest existing hotel in London.'The oldest existing hotel is not the oldest hotel. Besides, this source is obviously a brochure and not really trustworthy. Therefore I edited the section, though I still think a more convincing reference should be found.

193.176.235.94 (talk) 14:42, 1 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
I think most people would parse, "oldest" as "oldest existing", so really the two claims are the same, but your edit removes any ambiguity. I have a pretty good knowledge of London hotels, and I am almost certain that the claim is true. Abberley2 (talk) 15:56, 1 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
The claim still needs to be sourced, otherwise it should be removed or changed to "the hotel claims to be the oldest etc.". Kayman1uk (talk) 11:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

Leading Hotels of the World

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The intro says that the hotel is on some LHW list - is this interesting? Is it significant enough to be in the article? The link goes to the LHW article, and visiting that is hardly reassuring. If people can't be bothered to create a half-decent page for that organisation, why should we assume it's important enough to appear in the intro to Brown's? To put it another way, if some list called "the worst hotels in the world" had Brown's on it, should that appear in the intro? Kayman1uk (talk) 11:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

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