Talk:Bruce Faulconer

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Dr. Blofeld in topic Expanded article

pikkon theme based on young jeezy the inspiration

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someone has written this and i have removed it because he could not have sampled young jeezy's 2007 music 5 years before for pikkon — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.222.244.247 (talk) 17:14, 31 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

Who wrote these linked pages?

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"Bruce Faulconer received advanced musical training in composition at the University of Texas with composers Hunter Johnson, Karl Korte, Joseph Schwantner, and Eugene Kurtz." All of those four names have wiki pages for some reason. They all appear to be unnoteworthy people who probably authored their bio pages themselves on wikipedia.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.237.132.54 (talk) 22:05, 23 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Schwantner has a Pulitzer prize and I think that is a primary cause of notability. He's also pretty well-known. - kosboot (talk) 02:13, 1 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Press coverage of article deletion

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This article and its deletion were the subject of an article by Ted Gioia, "How a Prominent Composer Lost His Wikipedia Page—and Got Entangled in Kafkaesque Nightmare Trying to Get it Back: Bruce Faulconer deserves better, but the system seems rigged against him."

"What justification was given for its removal? When a troll demanded that he have an entry in the Grove Dictionary of Music (run by Oxford University Press), you begin to understand the biases they hold.

I can say this with some authority, because I’ve been a Grove contributor, and have published 8 music books with Oxford University Press—I love these institutions, but they are not authoritative guides for new and alternative media such as anime soundtracks. Wikipedia should know better.

And, of course, they do know better. Thousands of prominent musicians have Wikipedia entries without getting into Grove."

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"I raise this not just to get fair treatment for one composer, but also because this situation is emblematic of a systemic failing among older web platforms. Websites that were launched with the goal of serving users have gradually turned into petty fiefdoms. Operations that were once open-sourced and community minded, become inside jobs and close-minded. There’s no accountability to anyone outside the system, and the appeal process is deliberately made opaque and unresponsive to complaints."

​ —  AjaxSmack  20:42, 27 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Expanded article

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I noticed the complaint put in by Ted Gioia, and knowing Gioia to usually be an exceptionally resourceful music writer, I decided to look into it. Initially it did look as if the coverage of this composer is poor. He doesn't have an article in a traditional encyclopedia like you would expect for many composers. True. However, looking into it extensively there is enough coverage in lots of sources when you dig deep enough in to make an article appropriate in my opinion. If it was based purely on his work for Dragon Z and that was his sole work, then it might be appropriate to direct, but it is impossible to ignore the fact that his works have been performed by major orchestras not only in the US but Europe, and his works for viola are even listed on here alongside the likes of esteemed composers like Morton Feldman. I hope given time more publications, perhaps even Gioia himself will publish more material about this composer which can be used to further improve the article and make it even more encyclopedic. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:48, 28 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

@Dr. Blofeld How about WP:SIGCOV angle? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:47, 29 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

What about it? That comment was posted before I found sources written about him. Enough sources were found about Faulconer in the newspaper databases to make this acceptable. Why are you suddenly complaining now?♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:21, 29 November 2022 (UTC)Reply