Talk:Bruno Fernandes

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Latest comment: 1 year ago by 2A02:908:FBD8:5B60:19F6:127C:C9E5:E1C2 in topic Can we talk about the fact that opinion based sources are not valid?

Orphaned references in Bruno Fernandes (footballer, born 1994)

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I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Bruno Fernandes (footballer, born 1994)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "NFT":

  • From Seydou Doumbia: "Seydou Doumbia". National Football Teams. Benjamin Strack-Zimmermann. Retrieved 5 June 2013.
  • From Sebastián Coates: "Coates, Sebastián". National Football Teams. Retrieved 8 February 2017.
  • From Bryan Ruiz: "Ruiz, Bryan". National Football Teams. Retrieved 4 February 2017.
  • From Gonçalo Guedes: "Guedes, Gonçalo". National Football Teams. Retrieved 7 October 2017.
  • From Pizzi (Portuguese footballer): "Bruno Fernandes". National Football Teams. Benjamin Strack-Zimmermann. Retrieved 27 June 2017.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT 05:41, 8 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

Introduction edit warring

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There is a useless dispute on the introduction involving primarily two users. I suggested a final edition by using the information provided by both of the users, but one of the users reverted it. I am trying to end the edit warring, there is no reason for carrying on with it, neither there was any good reason to undo my suggested edition, it is like one of the users is imposing what he wants and so demanding the article by preventing a clearer information can be provided. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elcorteingles1 (talkcontribs) 19:49, 3 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

I removed the extra info about additional fees in the transfer because it is not germane to the introduction of the article. The important fee is the one that will definitely be paid by Manchester United to Sporting - anything else is just window dressing and can be mentioned (and is mentioned) in the appropriate section of the biography. Thanks. – PeeJay 07:31, 4 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 30 September 2020

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved -- JHunterJ (talk) 18:34, 7 October 2020 (UTC)Reply


– Clear case of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The player currently at Manchester United gets millions of results on Google, whereas the other two pages titled Bruno Fernandes (Bruno Fernandes (footballer, born 1974) and Bruno Fernandes (footballer, born 1978)) only get a few thousand ([1], [2]). Even searching for "bruno fernandes" "maritimo", which is the club for whom the guy born in 1974 played over 100 matches, only yields results relating to the 1994-born footballer. Nehme1499 (talk) 00:41, 30 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Note: the page Bruno Fernandes is a dab page with significant content, and so it must also be renamed. This request has been modified to reflect that fact. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. put'r there 08:18, 30 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 11:49, 30 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose - it's not surprising that somebody active 20 years before this person has less internet results, this is WP:RECRNTISM, not convinced he is PRIMARYTOPIC. GiantSnowman 11:53, 30 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Support - The current Bruno Fernandes has reached a higher level of football than the other two mentioned ever did, and while there is a recency bias in using Google hits to determine notability, I'm convinced that this Bruno Fernandes' notability couldn't possibly drop below that of the other two unless they both came out of retirement and won the World Cup for Portugal in 2022 while this Bruno Fernandes sat out injured. – PeeJay 13:36, 30 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Support, I think Manchester's Bruno is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC currently and eclipses long-term significance of other footballers.--Ortizesp (talk) 13:47, 30 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Support Youngest Bruno Fernandes is primary topic in my mind. He has reached a level of international significance that far eclipses what the others have done. Should qualify as WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and then just include a hatnote in his article "for others known as Bruno Fernandes...." RedPatchBoy (talk) 22:35, 30 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Semi-protected edit request on 18 August 2021

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I would like to edit his style of play. We should talk more about his penalties. On his front page, I would like to say He is widely regarded as one of the best penalty takers in the world, though has drawn criticism for his lack of goals from open play" I hope that you agree. Thiswasnoitfunnnu (talk) 00:42, 18 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. @Thiswasnoitfunnnu: According to the analysis of what sports experts is he regarded as such? —C.Fred (talk) 00:51, 18 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 7 December 2021

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Goal celebration Fernandes has adopted a particular goalscoring celebrations throughout his career, after scoring a goal, he usually celebrates by covering his ears with both of his hands, as a tribute to his daughter Matilde, who covered his ears pretending not to ear him.[4][5]

The source says she covers *her* ears to not *hear* him, so the sentence should read "he usually celebrates by covering his ears with both of his hands, as a tribute to his daughter Matilde, who covered her ears pretending not to hear him." 108.2.166.191 (talk) 03:43, 7 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

  Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:01, 7 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Spelling mistakes

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"Udinese" is mispelled at least once.

The writing

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I know this is simply a page about a football player but this section really bothers me "Directness also means that Fernandes tends to take a lot of risks with the type and level of passes he attempts to complete, especially because he often tries to deliver killer ones." It quite amateurish and needs to be phrased better. 41.113.36.12 (talk) 20:27, 16 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

How would you write it? Feel free to offer options. – PeeJay 22:49, 17 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 17 November 2022

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Add goals scored by Bruno Fernandes today 17 November, 2022 against Nigeria to list of international goals table (last table in article).

2 goals scored

9', 35' (P)

final score 4-0 Sodipe7 (talk) 20:56, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Remember that sources need to be WP:VERIFIABLE Actualcpscm (talk) 23:10, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Can we talk about the fact that opinion based sources are not valid?

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Bruno is not considered as 'one of the greatest of all time'. Editing this in is opinion and Wikipedia is a fact based page. 2A02:908:FBD8:5B60:19F6:127C:C9E5:E1C2 (talk) 17:22, 16 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

The language could perhaps use rewriting. But while "Fernandes is a great footballer" is an opinion, "many people consider Fernandes to be a great footballer" is a fact, and such assessments are very often, usefully included in Wikipedia pages. AntiDionysius (talk) 17:28, 16 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
Exactly, a huge difference from 'one of the greatest players of all time' - terms that are usually used for all time greats like Pele, Messi, Maradona, Ronaldo, Drogba, etc. 2A02:908:FBD8:5B60:19F6:127C:C9E5:E1C2 (talk) 17:35, 16 September 2023 (UTC)Reply