Talk:Buddha/Requested move

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of this discussion was to move this page to Buddha --Lox (t,c)

This move request is a follow-up to the extensive discussion at Talk:Gautama_Buddha#Name and voting at Talk:Buddha#Renaming_this_article_and_moving_current_Gautama_Buddha_article_here.3F. On these other talk pages it was agreed upon without sustained (any?) dissension that the prior Buddha article would be moved to Buddha (general) (which was done moments ago) and, based on uncontested statements, that this dab page would be moved to the Buddha space. In a nutshell, the basis for these moves is that, based on an examination of other authoritative encyclopedias, a Google search, and a check of pages that wikilink to these articles that the word "Buddha" is most often associated with the founder of Buddhism (see Gautama Buddha) and is only secondarily associated with "Buddhahood" and other aspects discussed on the old Buddha (new Buddha (general)) page. While one option was thus to move the current Gautama Buddha article to the Buddha space, there appeared to be consensus that using a dab page (this dab page in particular) was likely to cause the least disruption to the general WP reader searching for information on "Buddha."

Since the existing Buddha space has a significant edit history associated with it, moving this dab page to that space requires admin assistance. Thus, the newly inserted move tag at the top of this page and this "Requested move" entry have been added here in accord with WP:RM. Nonetheless: Is further discussion needed? Thanks for any help, Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 08:42, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose move, and undo move by Larry (sorry) of old Buddha page to Buddha (general). This is the most common term, and is the overarching meaning. The term God is pretty open too, but we only have one page for that. The Evil Spartan (talk) 09:15, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi Evil Spartan - Have you read the above referenced existing talk pages? I know they are long and at times long-winded. If I may direct your attention, please at least review the entries at the section Talk:Gautama_Buddha#Other_on-line_encyclopedia.27s_.22Buddha.22_entries. You'll see that overwhelmingly other encyclopedias refer primarily to Gautama Buddha ("the Buddha," the founder of Buddhism, the historical Buddha) when refering to "Buddha". In addition, as mentioned on these previously designtated talk pages, if you do a Google search on "Buddha" then, outside of commercial advertisements, the majority of his will refer to the "founder of Buddhism," Gautama/Gotama Buddha, "the Buddha." In addition, while I (and I think others) have at times have tried to change this, still the majority of links to the former Buddha (now Buddha (general) page assume they are pointing to an article on the founder of Buddhism. If you follow this, can we agree that rationally these sources support clearly that "Buddha" should direct to the current Gautama Buddha material or, if we want to allow for the significant number of secondary references to "a Buddha" and tertiary references to "a Buddha statue," then a dab page (such as this) is most appropriate? Is there another method of analysis you are using that is superior to these (checking other encyclopedic sources, Google searching, checking WP page links)? I know I am asking a lot by asking you to review these but, given your initial vote here, I hope you can understand my desire to appeal to reason and generally accessible knowledge as a basis for this very important decision. Best wishes, Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 15:00, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

• Support. I have a pet peeve for redirects to parenthetical (disambiguation) pages. Thanks to User:Arrow740 for setting this change in motion, which suggestion I initially thought was pointless but has come to seem like a good idea.—Nat Krause^{(Talk!·What have I done?)} 16:08, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

• Support. Well, in case it's not clear from my requesting this process, I thought I'd explicitly add my vote here which is being made in support of the aforementioned month-long discussion which involved several of WP Buddhism's most knowledgeable and prolific editors. With metta, Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 20:25, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.