Talk:Bulgarian Men's High School of Thessaloniki

Move warring

I support moving back to status quo ante. Old title Bulgarian Men's High School of Thessaloniki seemed stable and reasonable; current title Sts. Cyril and Methodius Men's High School of Salonika is oddly spelled if nothing else; and the move seemed to be purely motivated by an ideological objection against the qualifier "Bulgarian" (but that term is historically unobjectionable in this case, for all I can see.) Move was made by an obviously disruptive POV-warrior without any discussion or justification, so moving back to status quo seems like the reasonable default thing to do. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:33, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Seems reasonable, but I'd sorta like to have an independent editor verify sourcing for the name before moving it again. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:37, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Lemme see, perhaps I can find something. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:38, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Well, it may well be the case that the precise name used at the time varied somewhat. For instance, the name currently quoted in the article actually differs slightly from what is found in the (primary, and not RS-secondary) source linked from the first sentence. In that source, a contemporary letterhead, it says "Bulgarskata gimnazija Sv. Kiril i Metodij, Solun". The article has a slightly different wording meaning essentially the same thing, "Solunska bulgarska myzha gimnazija 'Sv. sv. Kiril i Metodij". So, whichever way it is, it's a "gimnazija" (high school or grammar school), it's in Solun (i.e., for us, Thessaloniki), it's certainly "Bulgarian", and it's got its patron saints Saints Cyril and Methodius somewhere in there. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:48, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Sources on google books appear to be using a wide range of descriptions, rather than any particular proper name (i.e. "the Bulgarian high school in Salonica", "St. Cyril and Methodius Bulgarian school for boys", and so on so forth. With or without the saints, with different translations of the type of school ("lycee", "gymnasium", "high school", "grammar school" or simply "school", combined with "male", "mens'" or "for boys", or nothing); with the city named "Salonica", "Solun" or "Thessaloniki" according to the preferences of each author. One description is as good as the other. But they all contain "Bulgarian", that's culturally and historically central for what kind of school it was. Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:01, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Moved back to original title, per source review above.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:46, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Great, thanks for taking care of this. Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:13, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

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