Talk:Bulgarian conjugation

I am not a Wikipedia expert, so forgive me if I am wrong or this comment is improperly formatted, but it appears this article would fit better under Wikibooks given its length and content. Eric618 01:48, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I took the idea form the articles: Spanish conjugation, German conjugation, French conjugation and Latin conjugation, if this article is longer than them, it's not my fault that Bulgarian conjugation is more complex. Arath 09:39, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Spliting suggestion

I would suggest, seeing the size of this article, to split it into a Bulgarian regular verb conjugation and a Bulgarian irregular conjugation. I would not attempt it myself, because I have no knowledge of Bulgarian and I would not like to make any mistake, but if anyone with enought knowlegde agrees, I think it will improve this article. --Francisco Valverde 16:53, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree, but I'm not quite sure which verbs should be regarded as regular and which irregular. I´m sure that all verbs I've qualified as regular are indeed regular, because knowing only the ending of their conjugation determiner you can get all their forms. I'm also sure that all verbs from number 27 onward are irregular. I also think that the verbs "лъжа", "стрижа", "стържа" and "пека", "тека", "река" and their derivatives should be regarded as irregular, too, because, although they share common conjugation pattern between themselves, there are no other verbs like them. But I'm not sure about verbs number 18, 21 and 23. The article irregular verb says that "the term "irregular verb" is not precisely enough defined". If there are no other suggestions I'm going to divide the verbs thus:

• regular: from 1 to 3, from 5 to 9, from 11 to 17, 19, 20, 22 and from 24 to 26
• irregular: all the others.

I think the name Bulgarian regular conjugation is better than Bulgarian irregular verb conjugation, as far as I know only verbs have conjugation so "verb" is unnecessary. Arath 18:19, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Long doesn't mean bad. If anyone is interested in Bulgarian verbs, s/he is likely interested in all of them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 222.155.190.206 (talk) 01:50, 10 March 2007 (UTC).

I've come looking for information on ALL the verbs. I prefer them all to be in one document. If there is any saintly person out there willing to enlarge the list of conjugated verbs, I'd kiss the ground they walk on. Another suggestion is that the verb tables be made printable. I think for that the entire format would have to be changed. FleetingJoy 17:52, 14 March 2007 (UTC)FleetingJoy

Don't split! The distinction between regular and irregular verbs in Bulgarian is more or less arbitrary. Besides, when looking up information on this page, you typically don't know whether the verb in question is regular or not. Rather turn the flat list into a hierarchical structure (е, и, and а conjugation and auxilary verbs). A deeper structure, for example showing дам as a subcase of ям, would be even more helpful. --GFlohr 14:03, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Well ям and дам have almost identical conjugations. The only differences are

• дам is a perfective verb and lacks some forms;
• the imperative of дам is дай and дайте and the imperative of ям is яж and яжте; Arath 14:16, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I have removed the splitting proposal tag because I see that there is no consensus for it to be done. It seems to me there is even more people opposed to it than for it. I would suggest that the size matter should be looked at, but not as someone proposed of deleting this article. Anyway, thanks to all of you for this discussion. Francisco Valverde 14:32, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

As for participles, isn't it redundant to have separate columns for the definite forms of the feminine, neuter, plural, and the subject form of the masculine? Uanfala (talk) 01:35, 24 March 2010 (UTC)