Talk:Burial (Burial album)

Catalog numbers

We could notice the HDBCD001 (HyperDuB CD 001) on the cover which is the catalog number. Hyperdub seems to have change is way to number releases from time to time. Studying http://www.hyperdub.net/ :
At the beginning (2006) it seems that HYP is for Kode9 & The Spaceape and others, and HDB for Burial. But later (2007) everyone is set under HDB. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.195.19.145 (talk) 16:39, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Cover Art

The introduction says that it shows the area around Wandsworth Prison, Trinity Road and Windmill Road. Any evidence for that? I know the area and it's not obvious to me. --DerivMan (talk) 11:38, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

It's correct. The area is around 51°27′13.89″N 0°10′59.99″W, seen from NW. Twist it around in Google Earth and you'll see it's spot on.

Tracks 1, 2, 4, 6-10 and 12 composed by William Bevan

odd that spaceape, night bus, and prayer aren't mentioned on the BMI page. i mean you would expect spaceape to get a co-credit on the first, but the other two? --Kaini (talk) 21:26, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I found this to be odd and misleading. Surely Burial "composed" all the tracks in the sense that he produced them all (he personally has claimed in interviews that he doesn't "write songs" but "makes tunes"). I don't think we should be relying on what is probably incomplete information in the BMI database to imply that he did not compose several tracks on his own album (unless there is a source that says someone else has writing credit).--Vlad the Impaler (talk) 18:31, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

well, i suspect the reason prayer isn't credited is because it's largely based on a loop taken from teardrop by massive attack. i suspect there's something similar going on with night bus. and as for spaceape - perhaps something to do with the fact spaceape is on it, as i mentioned above. just a thought, and pretty WP:OR stuff. Kaini (talk) 21:36, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Only the drum loop on "Prayer" is from "Teardrop." No clue where the other ambient sounds come, but I believe every track on this album is composed of samples from previously existing music. Yet, even in hip-hop where the source samples may be more recognizable, the producer still gets "writing" credit. In any case, I understand we can't use original research, but just the way this source is presented creates the impression that someone other than Burial made those tracks, which certainly isn't true. Can anyone think of a way to present it so that it doesn't give this implication? Perhaps just mentioning that those ones are logged in the BMI database? Is it even necessary to use the BMI database as a source?--Vlad the Impaler (talk) 04:40, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Tracklisting

Do we really need to put where the samples come from? Isn't that breaking Wikipedia's policy on original research? Because i really doubt that there is a reliable source that can support such claims. Hakken (talk) 19:32, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

I think adding sample sources can give some insight into artistic process and musical workflows. It can be useful in connecting older artists to newer music in a direct fashion.

I know Whosampled keeps a database of sample sources. I've attached their moderation policies, if that helps to legitimize it.

https://www.whosampled.com/faq/#5DJDayJob (talk) 22:22, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Whosampled certainly seems like a legitimate source and I support that it gives insight. Azoriusmage (talk) 16:17, 21 May 2024 (UTC)