Talk:Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee/Archive 1

Archive 1

Discussion moved from VfD:

• Book review, not encyclopedic -- JeLuF 07:44, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
  • I'm sorry. I'll try to fix it. I'll try to make more of a description rather than a review.
• Keep for now, post on cleanup. Give brand new articles time to cook. Davodd 08:57, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
• Keep. Enormously significant book. Agree the article needs work. Andrewa 09:59, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
• Keep. - Concur with Andrewa PilotPrecise 10:06, 13 March 2004 (UTC)
• Important book, but this article does it no justice. heidimo 15:45, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)

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It seems we have consensus to keep and improve, and a lot of interest.

My copy is in storage, so for the moment all I will do is encourage others, especially the original creator who IMO has made a very good start. I also recommend Black Elk Speaks if you can find it. Andrewa 19:07, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)

This is a great and important book, and we really need an article about it, but this is just garbage. I hope it improves. RickK | Talk 21:46, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Impact of the Book: Help Needed!

The impact of this book is what makes it notable; it literally changed the way non-Indian Americans think about Indians. I put in a short section on this topic, which needs sources! For example, what were the contemporary book reviews say about it? What did its critics say? What proof do we have that it had an impact. It's a great book both for its content and for what it did, which I remember (but for which I have few references.) rewinn 03:20, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Strength of the book

I understand an editor removed (and another promptly restored) a comment about the strength of this book, commenting "not a book review". However, this is an article about the book, which necessarily shares elements with book reviews. It would be desirable to quote authorities on the book as to why this book had so strong an impact on the United States and our perception of our first peoples; it seems clear that it is in part because of its (for its time) fresh look at history but also because of its strong documentation. I have had little luck finding links, and I urge contributors to add what they can. rewinn 04:14, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Genocide vs. slaughter

I reverted an edit that had replaced "displacement and slaughter" with "genocide". I don't think "slaughter" is a gentle term; I think it is more accurate than "genocide" with respect to what the book talks about. And it is less likely to mix the article up with technical and political questions of just what constitutes genocide. rewinn 04:05, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Neutrality

I'm not sure if the use of "slaughter" and "over estimate the impact" can be considered to be neutral. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Srajan01 (talk • contribs) 07:17, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

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Criticism Expansion

This section should be expanded in my opinion. Dee Brown (while a fun read for the average person) is an absolute joke to 90% of history scholars. This book is equally as important for it's derision as it is for bring the plight of the Native Americans to the national forefront again. Huntmog (talk) 17:03, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

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This book was banned in 1974

Am I missing something or fact below is not reflected in the page: "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, Dee Brown, 1970 Subtitled “An Indian History of the American West,” this book tells the history of United States growth and expansion into the West from the point of view of Native Americans. This book was banned by a school district official in Wisconsin in 1974 because the book might be polemical and they wanted to avoid controversy at all costs. “If there’s a possibility that something might be controversial, then why not eliminate it,” the official stated." (from http://www.bannedbooksweek.org/censorship/bannedbooksthatshapedamerica) Dron007 (talk) 00:04, 6 October 2016 (UTC)