Talk:Byambyn Rinchen

Mongolian?

I assume that Dr. Rinchen was fluent in Mongolian as well, but the article does not make this clear, particularly as it is not included in the list of languages in the first sentence or two. This may seem like an obvious point, but still. The Mink Ermine Fox (talk) 05:47, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

The lead has "was one of the founders of modern Mongolian literature" which should be sufficient. G Purevdorj (talk) 07:37, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

To do

There is no account on Rinchen's relation to the Communist government, and that is important. I would also prefer to use the picture from the Russian Wikipedia article, so that we have two different pictures here and in Mongolian language. The first column isn't referenced, and there is no bibliography of Rinchen's work. G Purevdorj (talk) 11:21, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

The novels in the following order (I may be missing some of them): Zaan Zaluudai (prehistoric), Ih nuudel (Hunnic), Sandoo Amban (Early 20th century), Uuriin tuya (Revolution) constitute a series of historical novels. As I understood, he was planning to add some more novels in between to accomplish the series. Gantuya eng (talk) 12:48, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Yet he was politically purged and was even in prison when young. They needed him to translate "Capital" or something else and freed him. Even after that, they constantly suppressed him labeling him "Nationalist", his language "Archaism" or "Feudal language". Once he said "They call me "anti-Marxist". How come I'm "anti-Marxist" if I translated "Capital"?" :) Gantuya eng (talk) 12:55, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I didn't read Zaan zaluudai, so how to translate the title? G Purevdorj (talk) 13:35, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I wasn't lucky to read it too. There's one very old copy in the central library. They are gonna make a cartoon book from it. At first glance it sounds like "Zaluudai, the Elephant", where Zaluudai is the name and Elephant is the nickname of a person. But it might be that both words make up one personal name. You can't tell before you read it. Gantuya eng (talk) 14:40, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Translated works

Ber Tsetseg and Letter of Betrayal were translated into English. Gantuya eng (talk) 14:40, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I didn't succeed in confirming this from the internet. Do you have links or the exact publication infos for these books? It would be really great to present some English translations so that readers interested in Mongolian literature might make use of it. G Purevdorj (talk) 17:08, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Not sure about Internet links. If the book comes out to the surface... Not sure. Sorry Gantuya eng (talk) 18:06, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Seems like Treacherous Letter was also translated into German, or at least I have read a short story of that name (in Erkundungen, ed. by Renate Bauwe-Radna). Yaan (talk) 11:00, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

If you could supply the page numbers and the exact German title of the short story, we could mention in the article that Rinchen has been translated into German and then give the bibliographical data as in-line reference. G Purevdorj (talk) 17:35, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

OK, but this will take some days. Yaan (talk) 11:26, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I still didn't find the book with the translated stories. If I remember right, the title of the book is "Lady Anu" and it contains "Lady Anu", "Ber ceceg", "Letter of betrayal" and some other. I guess it was translated by Mongolian translated such as Gurjav or Gurbazar (what shame to forget, the one who wrote "Theory of translation" at Otgontenger uni) or maybe Altangerel (the one who wrote the dictionary). Gantuya eng (talk) 11:20, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

The German translation of the story about the letter is "Der verräterische Brief", in Renate Bauwe Radna (editor [and translator, I guess]), Erkundungen. 20 mongolische Erzählungen, Verlag Volk und Welt Berlin 1976, p. 72ff . Yaan (talk) 11:37, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

"Lady Anu" was translated by teacher B. Damdin http://origo.mn/24tsag/2006/10/30/3480 Gantuya eng (talk) 14:22, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Refenrences

In re contribution: "Charity". Hi Gantuya! Any contribution is welcome, of course, but if you happen to have a reference for it, just give it now - it might be difficult to find it later, and if this article should happen to ever become B class, unreferenced information like this would have to be deleted. (Well, that's probably distant future or just phantasy.) G Purevdorj (talk) 09:31, 20 January 2009 (UTC)