Talk:Cèilidh

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Palladiumpaladin in topic Ceilidhs outside of the British Isles

Image geographic diversity

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We're not currently all that spoiled for choice for images (and even less so for videos) of cèilidhs, but just to briefly note, two of the three current files are from the Washington, D.C. area. It would be nice to eventually have some more from, ya know, Ireland or Scotland. Sdkb (talk) 07:43, 27 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Sdkb totally agree, thought it was weird that the video is from USA when it's about a traditional scottish/Irish thing, almost seems better to not have the video at all Christiegrinham (talk) 11:28, 21 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Merge from Céilí dance

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 – Articles were merged on 19 August 2023.

It's confusing to have these as separate articles. Céilí dance, which is exclusively about this activity in [Republic of] Ireland, is basically just the missing "In Ireland" section of this article, which has section on Scotland, Northern Ireland, and England. This is a WP:CONTENTFORK based on nothing but a Gaelic dialectal spelling difference.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  12:41, 22 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

I'm undecided, but leaning towards merging. The sources currently cited in the article are all specifically about Irish céilí, so it is at least justifiable to have a specific article for that concept. On the other hand, it seems to be sufficiently related to the English & Scottish ceilidh traditions that it makes sense to me to cover them all in the same article: so many of the basic concepts are the same that otherwise we're just unnecessarily repeating ourselves. (Indeed, there are dances which are used in all three traditions: Sir Roger de Coverley, which is illustrated in the lead video for Céilí dance, is an English dance which you will find danced in both Scottish ceilidh and Irish céilí, and in American traditions too!) If we do keep Irish céilí as a separate article, I don't know enough about the Irish traditions to say either way but it may well be that the Northern Irish céilí tradition should be discussed there rather than in Cèilidh. (I also note that Cèilidh#In popular culture includes many examples related to RoI céilíthe). Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 11:35, 8 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Additional sources

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Starting a list here as I run across things we can use:

  • Hay of Hayfield, John, ed. (1960). Tartan Tapestry: An Anthology of Scotland, Past, Present, Future. Glasgow: William Maclellan – via Internet Archive. Covers Highland games as well as the cèilidh, pp. 218–222.

 — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  11:04, 21 September 2023 (UTC)Reply


Ceilidhs outside of the British Isles

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Something I noticed about this article is that the ceilidhs in the British Isles are given much more focus than those outside of that area. I understand that this is where the ceilidh originated, but I believe that more attention should be given to ceilidhs outside of this region. It is an important aspect of many cultures, so I think they should get more than the small mention they currently have.

Also I need to leave my evaluation here for an assignment, so here.

Palladiumpaladin (talk) 02:17, 16 November 2023 (UTC)Reply