Talk:C. B. Waite

Latest comment: 7 years ago by CaroleHenson in topic Questions

Questions

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Name

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[Article created 2017-07-30] Potential confusion with Charles Burlingame Waite page? Disambiguation and/or hatnote template? West32 (talk) 09:36, 30 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

I added a distinguish message at the top of the page. A disambiguation pages isn't needed unless there are three C.B. Waite articles. Does that work?–CaroleHenson (talk) 05:38, 1 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

Parents

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Parents: William B. Waite, b. 20 June 1831 England; d. 3 May 1916 New Haven, Huron, Ohio. m. 9 Feb 1855 Ann Dawson (b. 1842, d. 12 Feb 1866 Plymouth Richland Ohio); m. 16 Apr 1867 Mahala Gettings (b. 5 Nov 1841, d. 28 December 1919 Plymouth, Richland, Ohio). Source: Ohio, County Marriages, 1789-2013; Find A Grave Index. West32 (talk) 04:47, 1 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

It looks like, from sources that I cannot use, because the summation is a combination of 1) primary records, 2) Find a Grave, and 3) original research piecing in the information together: William B. Waite married a woman named Ann while in England, or shortly after arriving. They had a son, Frank, born about 1855 (who like C.B. came to live in San Diego). Ann died in 1866. The next year, William married Mahala Gettings. I thought they moved, but the family lived 2 miles from Plymouth, and I think that the border changed or the town of New Haven was formed sometime around 1880. New Haven is about 2.5 miles north of Plymouth.
There is a 1907 Consulate registration record that I found with a notarized statement from William that said that Charles Betts Waite's mother's name was Ann. I can add that part. It doesn't say that her maiden name was Dawson. I cannot find a source that can be used that ties Ann Dawson to William (B.) Waite.–CaroleHenson (talk) 05:38, 1 August 2017 (UTC)Reply
9 Feb 1855 William Waite and Ann Dawson marriage record image: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939K-BJDL-M?cc=1614804&wc=Q6SP-XFV%3A122067001%2C122107001
Cool, thanks! I couldn't find it.–CaroleHenson (talk) 05:57, 1 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

Marriage

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Marriage: What is the evidence for secondary source statement of marriage before 1895? Record of marriage to Alice Adalaide Soule in 1923: California, County Marriages, 1850-1952, Film No.005698410 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L93W-NJJ?i=1441&cc=1804002

There is no secondary source for the first marriage - it came from "'Charles Betts Waite, Application to the Consulate General, Mexico City', U.S., Consular Registration Applications, 1916-1925, Department of State, Division of Passport Control Consular Registration Applications, February 26, 1918" - it named his children, the only one of which was a daughter, by her married/husband's name (Mrs... I forget the husband's name) - born in 1885 in Hollywood, Los Angeles, by an earlier marriage (the current wife was named).
I always cite the content that I am adding - and never insert some verbiage that is uncited. So, you could tell this from the citation that followed the statement.–CaroleHenson (talk) 16:38, 1 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

Child

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Waite's registration application cited in the article may be inaccurate. I don't have access to that source.

Re daughter Hazel Pearl Waite (b. 1885 Ohio): record of marriage to Charles L. Gilbert (15 Jun 1908). Source: Ohio, County Marriages, 1789-2013 Huron Marriage records 1906-1910 vol 10, https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939K-BG6Y-9?i=144&cc=1614804. West32 (talk) 03:33, 3 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

Waite signed a statement saying she was born in Hollywood, Los Angeles, CA - but how about if we take out the place of birth, since you also found the year = 1885 (before the date of second marriage)?–CaroleHenson (talk) 07:33, 3 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

Miscellaneous

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  • C. B. Waite advertisements, The Herald (Los Angeles), March 11-12, 1895, p. 10. "C. B. Waite, 211 W. First St., Los Angeles, Cal...."
  • The Herald (Los Angeles), March 11, 1895, p. 10: "Guitar lessons by note; execution a specialty: guarantee scholars able to play in society in three months; 50 cents a lesson. Mrs. C. B. Waite, 211 W. First St."