Talk:C. D. Howe Institute

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Neutrality issues

This article has multiple issues with having a NPOV tone. It's policy impact section has no sources, and is written in a non- neutral point of view. Below it is merely a list of quotes taken directly from their website. This section needs to be looked at to see if others feel the same, and if so, needs to be re- written completely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bpatrol156 (talk • contribs) 22:39, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. The cherry picked quotes praising the institute, for example, have little place in an encyclopedia. Pburka (talk) 23:03, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

I also agree. I don't feel that a simple copy and paste job from the Institute's own website gives a balanced viewpoint. I was the one who added the insertions from the Canadian Encyclopedia and from the Institute's 2007 Tax Competitiveness Report. I'm new to Wikipedia editing and will in future leave notes re my changes.Richard2001 (talk) 22:39, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

I am going to take out the third paragraph in the introduction. Don't feel like it adds anything to the article other than self-promotion. There are several other parts of this article that would benefit from a neutral rephrasing. For example, is the "commentary on the institute" really necessary? Sens08 (talk) 02:44, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Agree that the 'commentary section' should be removed but I disagree with removing the third paragraph in the intro. Quite common for the intro section to include recognition from third-party organizations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.206.184.66 (talk) 18:40, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

The entire article was obviously created in order to promote the Institute on the basis of its own PR copy. This is extremely problematic. A former chair of this right-wing organization has now been named Minister of Finance in Canada.Human fella (talk) 16:12, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Past speakers

The article currently includes a near-exhaustive list of speakers from C. D. Howe events. I significantly trimmed the section, but it was reverted with no explanation. The current list is not encyclopedic, and should be trimmed or removed. Pburka (talk) 23:20, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

If Wikipedia discourages long lists within articles, then why does every university page list famous students, faculty and alumni? Similar to an educational institution, the CD Howe events are basically academic lectures.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kmathewm (talk • contribs) 20:14, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Please see WP:OSE and WP:PROSE. Furthermore, there's a world of difference between alumni and invited guests. Rather than pointing to other stuff, ask yourself the question, what message are we trying to convey via the list of speakers, and how can we better express that? Is it a catalog of every speaker who has ever spoken at the institute? If so, then a link to the institute's own list in the external links section would suffice and is more likely to be up to date. Is it intended to demonstrate the influence of the institute by showing that important people speak there? If so, then we can summarize it like I did. Finally, I think there's a lot of additional information that we could provide which would be more valuable and interesting than a list. How are speakers selected, attracted, and compensated? Can we point to some speakers whose presence influenced the institute or public policy in some way? Have some speakers been particularly controversial (e.g. Gordon Campbell)? Pburka (talk) 23:27, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

The C.D. Howe Institute is not an academic institution, it is a think tank and advocacy group. Universities list famous faculty and alumni in order to attract funding; Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and should not be used as a vehicle for fund raising.Richard2001 (talk) 01:50, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

It looks like you accidentally deleted my comment when you posted this. I've restored it.

While I agree that the institute is not an academic institution, and that WP is not to be used for fund raising, I'm not sure how this is relevant. I don't think that the list of speakers in the article acts to attract funding. It's just not encyclopedic, as it lacks context and exposition. Pburka (talk) 02:06, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

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Changes that are needed to remove the banner

This page has a banner that says "This article contains content that is written like an advertisement…." It would be helpful for readers if the page was improved, so that the banner could be removed.

Some of the claims made are not supported. For example, the page says "The institute has had considerable impact on Canadian public policy…." This statement does not have a citation, which it needs to be consistent with the Wikipedia core content policy of verifiability. What would make it verifiable is a quote from a reliable source outside the C. D. Howe Institute making this claim.

The long list of researchers who have contributed to the research program does not have a citation. This section would be fine if, for each person listed, there was a link to the C.D. Howe Institute publication they wrote. That would provide the verification required.

The section called "Recent research" lists works published in 2015. As it is six years old, this research cannot be called "recent".

In the "Events" section, for two of the photos there is nothing in the photo or the description to indicate they were taken at a C.D. Howe Institute event. The photo at the 2012 Benefactors Lecture says it featured Charles Evans, but Charles Evans does not seem to be in the photo.Lukebayy (talk) 21:38, 7 June 2021 (UTC)