Talk:COVID-19 pandemic in Colorado

WikiProject COVID-19

I've created WikiProject COVID-19 as a temporary or permanent WikiProject and invite editors to use this space for discussing ways to improve coverage of the ongoing 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic. Please bring your ideas to the project/talk page. Stay safe, ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:48, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Cases by County

@Mr Xaero: I noticed you hid the cases by county table. I think that this would be something important to include on this page, but I'm not sure about the sourcing. The case summary page that CDPHE has been using to provide updates seems to be the original source of county reports, but it also seems to be deleted every day... Does anyone have any suggestions as to where we could source the county-by-county data? Bluegreenmagenta (talk) 15:45, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

It seems like The Colorado Sun has documented each case and its location. We could potentially use this data to recreate the table. Bluegreenmagenta (talk) 16:09, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

I used the Sun's data to re-add the table. Bluegreenmagenta (talk) 17:01, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

MOREBITS: As of Tuesday 3-17-2020 there is a new Colorado DATA page
maintained by Colorado Department of Public Health & Environment (CDPHE)
supposed to be updated by 4:00pm https://covid19.colorado.gov/data Morebits (talk) 00:43, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

@Morebits: Awesome, thanks! I just updated the table. I'll update the density map soon. Bluegreenmagenta (talk) 00:56, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

@Bluegreenmagenta: Table looks great, thanks! Map update would be nice. Morebits (talk) 01:59, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

@Morebits: Of course! The map is updated as well. Bluegreenmagenta (talk) 02:54, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Timeline: March 17

The timeline is missing information for March 17. Could someone please add information there? Bluegreenmagenta (talk) 02:37, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Combine: Timeline and Government Response

These sections seem to be very similar. I think we should either combine them or set more specific guidelines around what type of content belongs in which section. What are your thoughts? Bluegreenmagenta (talk) 02:38, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Controversies: Ken Buck on Coronavirus

Ken Buck recently shared a number of critical comments (Denver Post) about the state's COVID-19 response. I think this could be added to the Controversies section, but I am unsure if it warrants its own subsection. I'm looking for feedback. Thank you everyone for your work on this article! Bluegreenmagenta (talk) 03:28, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Testing

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/aytu-bioscience-secures-exclusive-u-120500962.html

Hi guys, testing should be a section on the wiki. This new test from AYTU may be a gamechanger. Right now tests take 5 days to result... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.229.223.177 (talk) 20:38, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

A great updated archive of day-by-day testing (positive and negative) data for Colorado and other states in the US is https://covidtracking.com/api/ See also graphs based on the data at [1] and [2] ★NealMcB★ (talk) 23:08, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Tracking Hospitalization Rate

As noted in the excellent Lin Lab Briefing Revised 2020-03-28, a critical metric for tracking the progress of COVID-19 is the hospitalization rate. It is a good early predictor of the fatality rate, and the case rate is too dependent on variations in testing availability and permission to test. The https://github.com/COVID19Tracking/ site provide raw data for hospitalizations. Can that be shown here? ★NealMcB★ (talk) 13:46, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

I believe, we have it added now. Thank you.GunnisonMarmot (talk) 23:54, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

New Template

The new template for keeping track of cases and deaths seems to have a lot of un-needed information on them. Also, how are they updated? I preferred the table, I'd like to go back to the old table. GunnisonMarmot (talk) 21:17, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

June

The number of new cases in June appear to have fallen during the middle of the month then risen at the end of the month to about the same place they were at the beginning of the month. Thus, the information in the lede about June, while accurate, is misleading, since we now have a rapidly increasing rate of new cases. User:Fred Bauder Talk 12:38, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Finally got fixed. User:Fred Bauder Talk 12:10, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Suggesting a section on CU Boulder

CU Boulder plans to reopen, and there are likely to be many cases, and there already is controversy on this topic, it may be good to cover this? I'll try to tackle this this weekend, if there's support for this idea — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hiddentao (talk • contribs) 00:05, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

That's the "party" school, well, DU too, but how about a sections about both school reopenings, public and private schools and higher education. We can expect more published information about CU Boulder, in any event. User:Fred Bauder Talk 22:09, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Articles are starting to be published. User:Fred Bauder Talk 17:20, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Fraternity fined: Party at Sigma Alpha Epsilon User:Fred Bauder Talk 16:13, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

"Lack of COVID-19 testing at Colorado’s rural universities epitomizes higher education inequities: State higher ed officials working to bring testing to Adams State University in Alamosa" User:Fred Bauder Talk 17:33, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Colorado College lasted 2 weeks User:Fred Bauder Talk 17:37, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

"3 more Colorado schools report COVID-19 outbreaks; cluster linked to Cameron Peak fire response One university outbreak still ongoing" User:Fred Bauder Talk 21:43, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Littleton High School https://www.denverpost.com/2020/09/03/littleton-colorado-heritage-high-school-closes-covid/ User:Fred Bauder Talk 13:42, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

CU Boulder "CU Boulder students urged to self-quarantine to fight COVID-19 surge: Colorado officials sound alarm over “very substantial increase” in coronavirus cases among college-aged people" User:Fred Bauder Talk 01:38, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Cherry Creek: "1,700 Cherry Creek High School students in remote learning after COVID-19 outbreak: The district blames off-campus parties" 16:40, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

"a dozen active outbreaks linked to colleges and universities" "COVID-19 outbreaks tied to Colorado colleges more than double as campuses ramp up efforts to stop virus: CU Boulder leaders detail enforcement efforts as Regis quarantines more than 130 students living on campus" User:Fred Bauder Talk 16:58, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

"Not safe to send CU Boulder students home, Polis says as campus clears dorm for COVID-19 quarantine space: Students in Darley North tower are required to move elsewhere in the Williams Village complex" User:Fred Bauder Talk 22:12, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

"CU Boulder switching to remote learning for at least 2 weeks amid COVID-19 surge: Chancellor says temporary move “could become permanent if we continue to disregard public health guidelines” User:Fred Bauder Talk 20:28, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

"Boulder County was the biggest contributor to the statewide increase over the last week, accounting for about one in every five new cases." https://www.denverpost.com/2020/09/22/colorado-covid-cases-rise-boulder-county/? User:Fred Bauder Talk 14:20, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

"Nearly 1,200 students and 12 staff members at the University of Colorado Boulder have confirmed cases of COVID-19" "More than 1,200 infected in CU Boulder’s COVID-19 outbreak — now the largest in Colorado by far: New fraternity and sorority outbreaks reported at CSU and DU this week" User:Fred Bauder Talk 01:21, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

First Outbreak question

I was working on this page some back in April and came back to check on it. Only question I have is the "first outbreak" bit in the info box. If this means where the disease came directly from and brought it to Colorado, that makes a lot of sense. However, my understanding is that the first outbreak of COVID-19 was in China. If I'm just not up to speed on how this nomenclature is done, totally understand. Cheers and thanks for everyone who has turned this into such a beautifully done page ~ Pbritti (talk) 18:22, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

You can see the cited source at https://www.9news.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/colorado-has-first-case-of-coronavirus-covid-19/73-3d2f21d8-7969-45bc-b172-a6b0d1a1516f I guess both of the initial cases had traveled recently to Italy. User:Fred Bauder Talk 01:47, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Brilliant. Thanks! ~ Pbritti (talk) 13:15, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Party school

Large block parties in college towns may be associated with party schools.

Please find some source that identifies CU Boulder as a school not marred by a persistent, well-earned reputation as a party school. User:Fred Bauder Talk 23:14, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Hey, just saw this. If you want to speak to a particular user, copy-and-paste this formula (deleting the spaces and periods): { {. ping. |. Fred Bauder } }.; it produces this: @Fred Bauder:

There is nothing if not ample evidence to describe CU-Boulder as a "party school." However, the issue is the phrasing you employed. Describing a school as "notorious" is a statement of subjectivity, a violation of NPOV standards. However, if you had cited a source that simultaneously referred to CU-Boulder as a "party school" and discussed the riot, then the relevancy of CU-Boulder as a party school would have been established by a third-party source, sufficiently sourcing your statement (though a word like "notorious" needs quotation marks almost invariably; "controversial" is perhaps more appropriate if sourced properly). Thank you for you contribution to the page! ~ Pbritti (talk) 02:16, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Being in the "top ten" should support "notorious." User:Fred Bauder Talk 13:47, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

I think you're missing the point. 1. "Notorious" carries negative connotations in standard American English. It is not for editors to read opinionated speech into sources. Some might consider being a "top-ten party school" a positive attribute, others not. Notoriety must explicitly addressed by a source to warrant the inclusion of the word. 2. the sources provided in the article do not tie the status of CU Boulder as a "top-ten party school" to the riot. What your phrasing did was suggest a possible relationship. Wikipedia is a tertiary source. We do not perform analysis nor original research. We're not even "reporting the news" so much as recording what reports say and synthesizing them in a non-innovative fashion. What is your reasoning for the wording you had? Perhaps you have a reason I haven't been able see yet. ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:05, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

With respect to CU being a party school, there is only one point of view, unless you count sources which neglect to mention that aspect of CU's reputation. Suppression of information is not, in itself, a point of view. User:Fred Bauder Talk 08:34, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

@Fred Bauder: We could continue discussing this at length, but suffice to say both you and I consider CU Boulder a "party school." Yet the wording and analysis you made were less precise in following Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View, No Original Research, and Manual of Style standards. For more specific discussion of why "notorious" was an inappropriate term, see WP:Label. ~ Pbritti (talk) 14:11, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Ok now you are making some sense. User:Fred Bauder Talk 07:26, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

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PEIS warning

The following warning appears on the page when you preview it:

Warning: Post-expand include size is too large. Some templates will not be included.

Since the table and two graph images in the "Case data" section haven't been updated since June/July 2020, I hid them and their now empty section using an HTML comment, which helps alleviate the cause of the warning. If you want to keep the table, I would suggest switching to something more practical like monthly numbers. If the time-sensitive data isn't going to be updated, then I suggest deleting it.

The warning still persists and I suggest switching the daily Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/United States/Colorado medical cases chart to something more practical like weekly or monthly numbers. Jroberson108 (talk) 13:04, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

I added comments to the cases chart to reduce 2020 to weekly data points without losing the raw data. This has been done for other states. Colorado no longer hits the PEIS limit.

The "Case data" section should be compared to the cases chart. The values should be the same. If so, then delete this section. EphemeralErrata (talk) 16:16, 24 February 2022 (UTC)