Talk:COVID-19 pandemic in Poland
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I was reverted by Boud for moving the HUGE charts to a subpage. Having them on this article not only takes up a huge amount of space (at least on my screen, the charts and tables take up more space than all of the article text), are poorly formatted (why are some right aligned and some left aligned?), and fundementally break the page, by causing templates not to be rendered correctly due to the post-expand include size limit being exceeded. In addition, there are redundant graphs between those in the "timeline section" and those in the un-encyclopedicly-named "Bigger graphs" section. Why do we need 7 different graphs to show cases, recoveries, and deaths per day? Why are the "larger graphs" not on a linked subpage? Why are new cases and 7-day average of new cases separate graphs, instead of just using a trendline? ----Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 00:43, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- The issue of tables is dealt with in a proposal in the section immediately above. It's normal to consult with active editors before making drastic changes to an article. In any case, the discussion has now started - see above.
- Regarding the "big graphs" section. Some new (to this article) editors decided that the existing graphs did not show enough detail, or did not look similar enough to other articles in this series, and so they inserted redundant graphs, repeated already graphed material in more detail. Since I've already contributed a lot to the page and don't WP:OWN it, I didn't feel justified in proposing that the bigger graphs be deleted. But I also didn't see a better way to name the section than "... :bigger graphs".
- Do we have any objections to splitting the section "SARS-CoV-2 cases and COVID-19 deaths in Poland: bigger graphs" to a separate article (a "subpage")?
- Do we have any proposals for a good name for the subpage?
- Boud (talk) 00:55, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- Boud, we're starting to face similar problems over at COVID-19 pandemic in Canada and are in the beginnings of a discussion to potentially move content to unbreak the page from PEIS issues. Perhaps the most important 2 graphs can stay on the page, and the rest of the graphs and other statistics can go onto a page like Statistics of the COVID-19 pandemic in Poland? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:14, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- The Poland case has one graph that is absent from almost all the other pages - the suspected/monitored/quarantined/tested graph. This is no longer updated, but it's encyclopedically useful information. The idea of a Statistics of the COVID-19 pandemic in Poland subarticle, justified as a WP:SPLIT (how to do the split), seems reasonable to me. I would propose that this start off with the three tables and the 'bigger graphs' section, and a brief introduction. @Ahecht, Tenryuu, and Natanieluz: Any objections? Boud (talk) 21:15, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- Sure, good idea. Natanieluz (talk) 21:16, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- No objections here. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:34, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- Sounds good. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 22:42, 17 June 2020 (UTC)- @Ahecht and Boud: Ok, so we have consensus, now you can make this changes. Natanieluz (talk) 20:49, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
Done --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 17:11, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Ahecht and Boud: Ok, so we have consensus, now you can make this changes. Natanieluz (talk) 20:49, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
- The Poland case has one graph that is absent from almost all the other pages - the suspected/monitored/quarantined/tested graph. This is no longer updated, but it's encyclopedically useful information. The idea of a Statistics of the COVID-19 pandemic in Poland subarticle, justified as a WP:SPLIT (how to do the split), seems reasonable to me. I would propose that this start off with the three tables and the 'bigger graphs' section, and a brief introduction. @Ahecht, Tenryuu, and Natanieluz: Any objections? Boud (talk) 21:15, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- Boud, we're starting to face similar problems over at COVID-19 pandemic in Canada and are in the beginnings of a discussion to potentially move content to unbreak the page from PEIS issues. Perhaps the most important 2 graphs can stay on the page, and the rest of the graphs and other statistics can go onto a page like Statistics of the COVID-19 pandemic in Poland? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:14, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
Red maps
editGuys, when one looks at the powiat map here, in the article, one can get imprssion that the country is completely flooded with active cases while it is definetely less dramatic (it can be observed at this site for example: map.. Do you think it is possible to apply a green coloured powiats where the disease has been overcome? Thanks in advance! 46.76.196.65 (talk) 10:23, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia isn't about what is happening now, but about the topic and what happened in the past. This article will still be up in 2025 when COVID-19 will probably be all behind us, we wouldn't want to display an all-green map then, would we?Nyx86 (talk) 16:31, 7 July 2020 (UTC)sock
Ref error after transclusion to Pandemic in Europe
editJust a heads up: the ref "MZ_GOV_PL" is generating a ref error in the COVID-19 pandemic in Europe. A possible solution is changing the definition location to the second paragraph of the lead, but at the same time it would change the usual place everyone is used to (daily updating), so I'll just leave this here. Feelthhis (talk) 20:30, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
Request for comment - cases change metrics
editPlease take part in discussion here: Project COVID-19, Medical cases charts - change type — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kohraa Mondel (talk • contribs) 23:02, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
Timeline of major events template bloat
editThe "timeline of major events" templates seem to be an unsourced list of arbitrarily-chosen statistics. Perhaps actual major events and 2-3 related numbers per statistic would make this a useful template. But currently, they have lost all usefulness and readability, mostly listing numbers at various dates like a trivia section of some sort. And the graphs already list all the numbers anyway in a much better way. None of these numbers have any context to their significance and, except actual major events, none are discussed in prose. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 16:48, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
Update Needed Re: Poland's mass vacicnation program in 2021
editI was scrolling through COVID data for different countries on the Johns Hopkins University COVID-19 dashboard when I came across something interesting. It seems that Poland was able to deliver tens of millions of vaccinations to its citizens in the second quarter of 2021. This does not seem to be noted in the article, and it's significance seems widely under-reported.
There appears to have been a corresponding massive drop in COVID infections for three months following the vaccination drive.
So far the only english sources I've been able to find on the vaccination campaign are this press release by the Polish Press agency: https://www.pap.pl/en/news/news%2C843463%2Cpoland-plans-20-mln-vaccinations-end-june.html
And the data on the Johns Hopkins dashboard itself: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
Could someone please find additional sources and update the Wiki article accordingly? I'm not sure how best to do it myself.
2001:56A:7130:8700:591F:D889:F2D8:D44A (talk) 22:32, 13 February 2022 (UTC)