Talk:Cairo

Who is the Afro centrist that Keeps removing the fact that Cairo is the Biggest city in the Middle East?

Somebody keeps messing with the sources and trying to mess with the fact that Cairo is the largest city in the Middle East. He keeps deleting the section that says "largest city in the Middle East" and the source for that keeps moving to other sections due to the anonymous editor that keeps messing with the first section of the article regarding the fact that Cairo is a Middle Eastern city. I think the Afro centrist thinks that the Middle East is a continent and that the fact that Egypt is both an African and a Middle Eastern country contradict. This is what happens when people in 2019 get no education and instead spend all their time on social media getting their information off of Facebook and Twitter memes. Yes we do live in those times...dark times.. Anyways, here is the source that the person editing this keeps messing with and removing https://www.prlog.org/10332580-cairo-alqahira-is-egypts-capital-and-the-largest-city-in-the-middle-east-and-africa.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArabPride (talk • contribs) 07:23, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

What’s your problem??? Egypt is physically on the continent of Africa that makes Egypt an African countries and we are very aware most Egyptians are not black if that’s your worry of being mistaken to be your primitive black brothers and sisters down south. That’s just logic. There’s no such thing as Middle East as far as science is concerned. It was just a coined word used by the British and relative to British. How can someone from Sudan really refer to Egypt as Middle East?? 🤔 Use your common sense. Israel/ Palestine are the gateway to Asia and where Asia starts. So you can associate Egypt with any culture but it won’t change the fact that it is in Africa; the same way if Spain was predominantly Arab and Muslim it would still be European based on its geographical location. So it’s not Afro centrist it’s just common logic and sense. Unless you spear head another continental drift that will allocate Egypt’s departure from the northern most eastern part of our continent and lands over Iraq; Egypt is still African by geography. Nlivataye (talk) 09:09, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

You are wrong on all accounts and this is why articles should be protected. The Middle East is not predicated on continental boundaries. It is like you said, not a scientific term, but it is a geopolitical term that has cultural and historical significance. The fact that Egypt is in the African continent, does not contradict the fact that it is also part of the Middle East. The Middle East is not confined to only Asia. It extends to Africa via Egypt and to Europe via Turkey. It is on the crossroads of Africa, Asia and Europe. Second of all, the gateway to Asia is the Sinai Peninsula of Egypt, not "Palestine/Israel". This is why this Cairo article should be locked just like they did with the Middle East and Egypt articles, because it is always changed by uneducated people in this subject. Ahmad Abdul Malik (talk) 15:05, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Foundation date(s) in infobox

I've revised the foundation date in the infobox to include the foundation of Fustat as well as "Cairo" proper (see this edit). As explained in the expanded history section, a number of historians who've written histories of the city (most notably Janet Abu-Lughod and André Raymond) trace its origins to Fustat, with Cairo merely being the latest and most significant of the subsequent foundations added to it. That said, I'm unsure about the best wording to balance precision with conciseness in an infobox, so any further suggestions are welcome. One could also, arguably, add the construction of the former Roman fortress (no specific date but I've seen c. 300 AD used as an approximation), but that might be complicating things too much or it might be blurring the line too much with all the earlier (but non-continuous) forts and settlements in the region during Antiquity. R Prazeres (talk) 22:19, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Lead summary

(Re: Fragrant Peony and IP editor.) Per MOS:LEAD the lead is a summary of the article, and a large part of the history section concerns the periods before 969. Not only that, but any reliable history of Cairo begins at least as early as the foundation of Fustat; e.g. Abu-Lughod and Raymond's books, among other sources cited on this page. In fact, those historians explicitly say so. Just because the name "Cairo" originates with the Fatimid foundation does not mean the city as a whole began then. Summarizing the city's starting point as 969 is misleading both in terms of representing the article's content and in terms of what reliable sources present. Considering that the lead is not very long and the revised wording adds only about two sentences, I have a hard time seeing the justification for suddenly excluding basic information. No issues were raised when these revisions to the article and the lead were made two months ago. If it's a matter of wanting to be more concise, the same information can still be condensed in the lead without eliminating the basics. R Prazeres (talk) 23:22, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

It isn't "exactly" right since Fustat itself wasn't even the oldest settlement, hence why the detailed settlements section is correct. Fragrant Peony (talk) 00:04, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

I didn't say it was literally the oldest, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say, since the current wording of the lead mentions the earlier settlements too, for that very reason. If it's of any relevance to this discussion, Fustat is indeed the most important early foundation which led to the development of the modern city; again, that's explicitly said by Abu-Lughod (1971, p. 7) and Raymond (1993, p. 13), already cited in text. R Prazeres (talk) 00:30, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Names

Can anyone please change the name from Cairo to Cairo, Egypt because there is another city it name is Cairo it’s better thing because maybe someone thinks that city is the same another one Lamise2006 (talk) 08:43, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

If you're serious about that proposal then you will need to make Requested Move. However I seriously doubt that would gain any support since this is obviously the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. R Prazeres (talk) 08:53, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Flag

I see all over the place that the flag of cairo isn't the one used in on this page. Is it even official, or just some idiot made up the flag. Eehuiio (talk) 21:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)