Talk:Calcutta Cup

Links

The second link (The Calcutta Cup explained on the website of the Scottish Rugby Union) currently gives an error on the Scottish rugby web server. Might be transient, if not, will find the proper URL, or delete, in a week or so. AWoodland (talk) 13:37, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Updated link. AWoodland (talk) 17:31, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Where is it kept when Scotland hold it?

Per the article: When won by England the original Calcutta Cup is put on public display in the Museum of Rugby in Twickenham.... Where is it kept when Scotland hold it? In Scotland? On display or not? Or is it tucked in a cupboard at Twickenham until England are next the holders? Tonywalton ^Talk 22:46, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

image

The second image of the cup was incorrectly captioned so I have removed it. Is that right? RoyalBlueStuey (talk) 12:35, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

There currently doesn't seem to be any image of the cup. Can someone add one? Fig (talk) 19:26, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Only in the Six Nations?

Is the Calcutta Cup at stake only in the meeting in the Home/Five/Six Nations, or whenever the sides meet? For example in the 2011 World Cup pool match?Kwib (talk) 09:54, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

I think it's just the 6N games - this BBC article [1] confirms that it hasn't been at stake on the two occasions that the sides have met outside the "domestic" tournament.--Bcp67 (talk) 17:54, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Although, in each case the cup-holders won the "non-cup" match.--Bcp67 (talk) 17:56, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Grammar in opening paragraph

It says "It is currently England's since the 2009 Six Nations Championship."

It should say "It has been England's since the 2009 Six Nations Championship" or if you want to emphasise currently: "it is currently England's and has been so since the 2009 Six Nations Championship".

The present perfect tense denotes from the past until this moment with for/since.

I have had the internet since 2001. not I have the internet since 2001.

Discrepancy in no. of matches

The lede says 119 matches, the overall results table further down indicates 123, and the History of rugby union matches between England and Scotland article indicates (I think) 131. Which is right? --A bit iffy (talk) 22:20, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Answering my own question: looks like it should be 123. (Didn't exclude years before 1879 when first competed for.)--A bit iffy (talk) 22:26, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Draw

If there's a draw the team who last won the Calcutta Cup conserves it. So we can consider 2019 as a Scottish win, 2010 as an English win and so on. --79.53.239.244 (talk) 12:27, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

I disagree - there is a clear difference between retaining the Cup and winning it outright (hence the table having a separate column counting the draws, and the fact that whenever the article mentions number of wins it excludes draws). I think it is confusing to have the English/Scottish flag displayed in years when the number of wins does not increment by 1. The word draw is more informative as to what actually happened in that game.

129.11.85.245 (talk) 16:46, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Well, now the Calcutta Cup is in Scotland, so we have at least to clearly specify it in the text, with a note. We have at least to distinguish between draws with Scottish hold and draws with English hold, as the 6 nations site clearly said that Scots conserved the trophy https://www.sixnationsrugby.com/2019/03/17/england-and-scotland-in-astonishing-draw-best-of-social/ --87.18.230.49 (talk) 20:05, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Opening sentence makes no sense at all

"The Calcutta Cup is the trophy awarded to the winner of the rugby match between England and Scotland". Which rugby match between England and Scotland? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:730E:4600:F9C1:9904:CAAB:5673 (talk) 18:46, 6 February 2021 (UTC)