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Latest comment: 7 months ago3 comments2 people in discussion
I removed the following:
Esselstyn advised Eric Adams, the incoming mayor of New York City, to switch to a plant-based diet after Adams was diagnosed with diabetes.[1] Within six months Adams had lost 30 pounds, reversed his diabetes, and reduced his blood pressure and cholesterol levels to a healthy enough range to lower his risk of heart disease or stroke.[2]
The problem I saw was that the mayor lost his 30lbs eighteen months before the first article. Since then I managed to peek behind the paywall to the first article though and the only reference to Esselstyn was (while retrospective):
"That was my wake-up call,” Adams told me. He began doing research on treatments that didn’t involve a lifetime of insulin shots and discovered the work of physicians Michael Greger, Dean Ornish, Neal Barnard and Caldwell B. Esselstyn Jr. and biochemist T. Colin Campbell, which showed that diabetes and other chronic diseases could be prevented and even reversed with a plant-based diet.
However forks over knivesdoes confirm an appointment with Esselstyn. Double however,this website is associated with the Esselstyn family, and certainly does not meet WP:MEDRS, nor do we generally encourage anecdote to buttress health claims. Please feel free to discuss and make any appropriate changes.
It looks to me like this is just another case of someone making up exaggerated claims that their diet has reversed disease. Eric Adams has never been vegan, he eats eggs and fish. He did not reverse diabetes on diet alone. Unfortunately this is the usual kind of misinformation we see online these days about diet. I agree that this content should remain off the article. Psychologist Guy (talk) 18:23, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply