Talk:Cambridge University primates

Exposed Brains

"BUAV also say their investigator discovered that monkeys who had had the tops of their scalps sawn off in order to have strokes induced, were left unattended with their brains exposed for 15 hours overnight, because Cambridge staff worked nine to five. [6]"

I was a bit suprised when I read this (i.e. sounds like the kind of thing that would get you sent to prison) but from reading the Guardian article I think it is based on a misreading of this:

"BUAV claimed they discovered monkeys which had the tops of their heads sawn off in order for a stroke to be induced and were then left for 15 hours without veterinary attention."

Which I think actually means that the monkeys had the tops of their heads sawn off, a stroke induced (see this ref) and then the whole lot sown back together and the animal then transferred to an incubator where it was then left without veterinary attention (because Cambridge didn't have 24hr veterinary coverage for some reason). This would be consistent with the actual surgery documented in the Cambridge experiments (see that ref), the concerns addressed in the government report, and would make more sense.--Coroebus 23:00, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi Coroebus, I'll check again what the BUAV report actually says. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 00:17, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

New Section

It was pointed out to me that the content of this article does strictly not address, with balance, its subject according to the title. Thus I added a new section on primate experiments at Cambridge University (at least what i can find). I have also changed a few other things including the opening sentence, removed the suggestion the review would be published in summer 2006, reworded the misleading suggestion that "only" 3 staff looked after all the primates needs (the reality according to the report is that 3 staff did the housekeeping duties, but the scientists themselves are responsible for welfare of animals under procedures, and they most certainly do not work 9 to 5!). I also added the review's take on the "muscle tone" allegation. Thats it. Rockpocket 01:48, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

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POV issues

I am a bit unhappy about the neutrality here, we seem to be omitting to discuss anything about the title of the article except its contraversy. Do we have any references to support "wide public attention"? --BozMo talk 14:09, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Its not being omitted, I think its just that no-one has added more info about the science itself. I wrote Cambridge University primates#Nature of the research, but if you have more detail to add, then please do so. Rockpocket 19:00, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

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