Talk:Cancer survivor

Ratings

I just wanted to say that the reason I rated this as having low importance for the WPMED project is because a list of people who have/had cancer and are still living is not that important to that project. Please don't take it personally. WhatamIdoing 00:57, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Source

If this article survives its AfD, then http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=11468&page=23 might make an interesting source. I think "page 30" will be interesting: it appears that this is an Americanism. WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:48, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Criticism of use of word "survivor"

Have removed criticisms as uncited. If there are sources, I'd suggest a new section called 'Criticism of terminology'. MikeHobday (talk) 16:48, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

epiphanies etc

I don't want to to rain on anyone's parade, but in my practice, where I see about 70 patients per week with no sign of residual cancer, there is no description of anything like an epiphany or similar. Most of these patients are completely unsentimental, and simply glad to be getting on with their normal lives after a worrying diagnosis and a possibly unpleasant treatment. The main transormation is that some of them cut down on the cigarettes and alcohol. Does the first para of this article really strike the right tone?Jellytussle (talk) 17:22, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

That paragraph has always bothered me. For one thing, I think it better describes the class of "survivors" that don't really believe that they're likely to survive (a class that might include most people at the moment of diagnosis, but few of them ten years later). Crisis, such as a perception of impending death due to uncontrolled disease, can lend clarity to some aspects of life. Those past that crisis point and truly surviving are the ones who will say things like, "Eh, I had a little spot of skin cancer twenty years ago; it was stressful at the time, but I've moved on".

For another, I think the paragraph tends to confer an inappropriate aura of sainthood on people that have done nothing laudable, but who merely got sick through either their own bad choices or what we might call "bad luck" (random chance or genetics).

On the other hand, I think that the "life-changing" aspect could probably be supported. Concrete lifestyle changes might seem small, like spending less time in the sun or somewhat reducing tobacco exposures, but they do seem to be real. Other changes, such as getting prescribed surveillance tests or coping with treatment effects (e.g., limb amputation for osteosarcoma), are also "life-changing". Do you have a preferred way to re-write it? WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:41, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

blog

I would like to add an external link to whatididtosurvive.com, because it's a candid blog about the various strategies that a patient did in order to survive a poor cancer prognosis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhondadabrams (talk • contribs) 02:03, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Previvor

I merged Cancer previvor here as the term is not a well established neologism. The term fits here in the spectrum of meanings of "survivor".Novangelis (talk) 18:00, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I'd just been thinking about that possibility yesterday, and I support the merge. What do you think about categorizing the redirect, so that the term appears in (for example) Category:Cancer survivors? WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:45, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Good thought, and done. I started running down the list of articles you generated. I didn't get very far before I found an article in need of attention.Novangelis (talk) 19:36, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Category:Fictional cancer survivors

I think this would be a perfectly legitimate category. CensoredScribe (talk) 05:13, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

actively dying

I wonder a bit about the phrase "actively dying" in the first paragraph. It seems a bit odd to me because dying is not really an activity that you're actively engaged in, but rather a process that happens to you. You're an undergoer or a patient, not an agent. I know what it's trying to say but I think it should be reworded. I couldn't come up with a better wording myself, though. -- pne (talk) 13:46, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

It's the standard phrase in the "industry". Active dying means a particular thing to professionals. "Active dying" refers to the last couple of days, in which the death process is truly happening. See this summary for a list of the signs.

I can see why people make this complaint about the definition: "Wow! What a cancer survivor! Well, the nurse says he'll probably die in the next 12 to 24 hours, so how about we tell the rest of the family to plan on his funeral being on Thursday?" WhatamIdoing (talk) 14:16, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Cancer survivor. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20150706191702/http://www.barbaraehrenreich.com/cancerland.htm to http://www.barbaraehrenreich.com/cancerland.htm

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}).

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

• If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
• If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 04:30, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Cancer survivor. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110102141955/http://cancercontrol.cancer.gov/ocs/definitions.html to http://cancercontrol.cancer.gov/ocs/definitions.html

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

• If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
• If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 04:32, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 3 external links on Cancer survivor. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110716065341/http://www.macmillan.org.uk/GetInvolved/Campaigns/Survivorship/Livingwithorbeyondcancer.aspx to http://www.macmillan.org.uk/GetInvolved/Campaigns/Survivorship/Livingwithorbeyondcancer.aspx
• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20100419132843/http://www.macmillan.org.uk/GetInvolved/Campaigns/Survivorship/Macmillan_and_survivorship.aspx to http://www.macmillan.org.uk/GetInvolved/Campaigns/Survivorship/Macmillan_and_survivorship.aspx
• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20091203124438/http://www.improvement.nhs.uk/cancer/SurvivorshipLivingWithandBeyondCancer/tabid/65/Default.aspx to http://www.improvement.nhs.uk/cancer/SurvivorshipLivingWithandBeyondCancer/tabid/65/Default.aspx

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

• If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
• If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 20:39, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Suicidal ideology

I think this should say suicidal ideation. An ideology is a set of beliefs TheDrD1ng3r (talk) 23:33, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for this note. I've made this change. WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:06, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: The Impact of Cancer

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 8 January 2024 and 4 May 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Apolloh01 (article contribs). Peer reviewers: 0psychstudent0.

— Assignment last updated by Dandelions-love-to-fly (talk) 19:23, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

This article currently uses an unusual style of citation, called Wikipedia:List-defined references. It does not play well with the visual editor, which is what most classes use. I'm going to start converting the citation style so that the students will have an easier time updating this article. WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:33, 10 February 2024 (UTC)