Talk:Cannondale Historic District

Pics

Pics are needed. There are no pics in HABS that I can find, unless perhaps the David Lambert House on Danbury Post Road in Wilton, that is photo'd in HABS, is located in the district. doncram (talk) 17:05, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Cannon Crossing

The shopping center known as Cannon Crossing is wholly within the historic district. Article should be rewritten and consolidated with the neighborhood article to fix the misleading statement currently in the article. --Polaron | Talk 17:29, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Which statement are you referring to? If u mean that the current statement that the district should not be confused with Cannon Crossing, I think that is currently correct (it is not the same as the other, and the 2 should not be equated) but I agree that their relationship should be clarified here. How do you know that Cannon Crossing is wholly within the district, though? The NRHP doc text does not mention that, and on page 20 it mentions the 2 buildings within the district that had been moved (and does not include mention of the collection of moved buildings that apparently make up Cannon Crossing). Cannon Crossing shopping area is only mentioned in passing in the NRHP accompanying photos, I think, where it is mentioned that 3 objects are at the entrance.

I also do notice that the Cannondale, Connecticut article certainly needs some fixing, as it does in fact incorrectly confuse the actress's Cannon Crossing with the Cannondale Historic District. doncram (talk) 17:50, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

There is a map in the NRHP documentation is there not? In any case, I've asked the creator of the Cannondale article to clarify the distinction. --Polaron | Talk 18:10, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

There is a topo map in the NRHP doc, which I thot had no area marked, but now i see there is an hand-drawn district area indicated. It's a large-scale map and the bounds are not clear though, and i don't know where Cannon Crossing is anyhow. Could you possibly create a Google map using the document's UTM coordinates? The map you did for Southport Historic District (Fairfield, Connecticut) has worked very well in identifying which of various properties were inside or outside the district. Perhaps Cannon Crossing can be seen in Google satellite view, when zoomed in. doncram (talk) 22:08, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

1872 Cannondale School building, now a restaurant -- are we going to have an article on this, too?

I wrote much of the "Cannondale" article and visited the neighborhood. The historic district basicly takes up the center of Cannondale (and then some, I guess) -- there isn't anything anyone would say is in the center of Cannondale other than the historic buildings with shops in them that make up the shopping district of Cannon Crossing and some historic homes very close by in the district (and the two overlap). A distinction can certainly be made between Cannondale, Cannondale Historic District and Cannon Crossing, and there's enough sourcing out there for three different articles to pass notability standards. In fact, the 1872 schoolhouse which is part of the historic district is also part of Cannon Crossing. There's a restaurant in it now which itself can pass notability standards. [1] [2] It's one of the buildings June Havoc had hauled over from elsewhere in town ("In December 1978 she purchased the old Cannondale Schoolhouse from the town for $1 and, with great flourish and a parade led by the high school band, moved it to Cannon Crossing to become a restaurant." -- from Russell's history, p 463, already cited in the neighborhood article).

But why have four articles? Or three? Or even two? Even if the Cannondale article is expanded quite a bit, there's plenty of room for the entire historic-district article within it, even if the historic-district information is enormously expanded. What benefit is it to readers to have to go to multiple pages when we're never -- not ever -- going to get enough information on any of the three to really fill up a good-sized article? Anyone interested in any of the three will be interested in the two others. In fact, the best way to understand the historic district is by integrating its elements into the history section of the neighborhood article, where readers would get the context. The history section already discusses some surviving buildings, which I bet are part of the historic district. I say we merge, but if there's reason to believe we could expand the historic district article enormously, I'd reconsider. In fact, if there's enough information out there that wouldn't all fit in 35K on one page, I'd prefer to have multiple articles. -- JohnWBarber (talk) 00:58, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

I just looked over the NHRP application document linked to in the article, and there's actually quite a bit of information there that would not fit in the Cannondale article, so I support two separate articles. I've even got a second picture of part of the district (the gas pumps, which I'd added over at the article on gas pumps). I'll add that to the article. -- JohnWBarber (talk) 01:31, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your editing to improve both articles! doncram (talk) 14:48, 12 January 2010 (UTC)