Talk:Canopus, Egypt

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I may as well start this talk page.

The only things I really know about Canopus are the following:

1. It is the name for the first part of the 3-stone Series, in the Rosetta Stone Series. One really has to know, or study all three to get a clue to the Rosetta Stone Import. Most people do not 'know' that Ptolemy V, his 4th, and 5th Greek names were Epiphany, Eucharistos, both words now used in the Catholic church. (Epiphanous was put on Greek coins of the time). And the Rosetta stone uses the word "Cathedra", and the Canopus Stone uses the word "Synagogue...".(See the "Decree of Canopus" web link, 50 % down at "rise of the Nile" (and "gather the fruit"(Not Mentioned)); gather is the word "syngoge", sungoge, =(Hebrew, i.e. Greek synogogue); in hieroglyphs the "fruit" glyph is next to it.)Mmcannis 19:26, 3 December 2005 (UTC) Just before Leap year is brought up ( 1/ 13 ) of the hieroglyphic lines( 2 of 26 ), ... " and when the Nile floods, and they " gather " the fruit ( i. e. ) harvest,.." then leap year is discussed. Anyway the word is Synagogue, for a "gathering". ( The greek peoples, are already sitting on their kathidra's reading this (yuk,yuk). (a Kathidra is a chair).. Cathedrals, are chair-buildings.Reply

2. So, i worked on the Greek, and the Hieroglyphs of the Canopus Stone. The 2nd thing I found out about "Canopus, Egypt", is that Hadrian patterned his villa after Canopus. It is not mentioned on his page. The story I read, though points out,... the Canals that Canopus had crisscrossing the City.

Thus Hadrian, supposedly built underground tunnels, concourses, criss-crossing his Villa, so that for the Events, parties, Supplies could be delivered in a timely Fashion(by the Staff of people)( I would love to know more about this.) Kind of like a Subway system.


3. And the 3rd Factoid about Canopus, I thought, it was a Rich, seaport-type town, with wealth from Commerce, thus creating Richer people, and (smarter and more diverse needs for people ?). The 2nd Canopus stone I worked on, is Exquisite. To give it a 1 - 100% rating of Quality, It is at 100%. And if you read the stories, Greek and Eqyptian, each alone would take up to 10 minutes to read the English translation of it. I think the Demotic, would only take 5- 7 minutes; it is more abbreviated. (But the Demotic is almost longer on the Rosetta stone.) (And people might not have read that for the Rosetta Stone, of the 22-23 reasons to honor the pharaoh with a stone, they captured a city and the Rebels, and put them on Stakes, Crosses, for Everybody to See, and obriously, a lot more. )(Foreshadowings of future events.)

4. Apparently Ptolemy II had a famous Stele which prompted the beginning of this amazing 3-Stele Series.Mmcannis 19:26, 3 December 2005 (UTC)Reply


The 3-Stone Series: Canopus, Decree 2, Rosetta Stone

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See the Rosetta Stone page for a listing of the 6 stele's listed in the series. Their rock types are noted. Michael McAnnis

Gauti: hieroglyphs, complete

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W11
R12
Z7
Z7
N35
N35
N35
N36
 
W11
R12
G43G43N36
 
W11
R12
Z7 Z7
Z4 Z4
O49
Gauti {?}
in hieroglyphs

The Gauti (?) entry in Budge's dictionary has ( 6 ) six {nice} variations for the "Gauti" city name. They appear to be "....Water-Beloved", especially, and /or: "..Land-Beloved"; (No. 3 is displayed imperfectly, but one gets the idea.) Mmcannis 19:26, 3 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

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W11
R12
Z7
Z4
Z7
Z4
N35
N35
N35
N36
N21
O49
 
W11G1Z7
 
X1
Z4
O49
 
W11
R12
Z4G43N36
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N23 Z1
4 thru 6
in hieroglyphs
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References

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  • Budge, Sir E.A.Wallis. An Egyptian Hieroglyphic Dictionary, in Two Volumes, Sir E.A.Wallis Budge, (Dover Publications, Inc., New York), c1920, Dover Edition, c1978. (Large categorized listings of Hieroglyphs, Vol. 1, pp xcvii-cxlvii (97-147, 50 pgs.) See pgs. 1049A, 1049B, 994B.

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Does anyone know why (and how) Canopus was worshipped as a pitcher with a human head? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1002:B010:A668:580A:D00:8A5:B6AF (talk) 16:58, 22 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

No date of sinking

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I deduce that Canopus sank, but there's no date (even approx.) shown for the sinking. Trafford09 (talk) 07:19, 3 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

I have opened a related discussion here: Talk:Egypt#Submersion of coastal land. Arminden (talk) 12:44, 2 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Canopus' reputation in the Roman Period

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Having the text (The Satyrs of Decimus Junius Juvenalis... translated by Mr Dryden, 1726) before me, I know that Canopus is mentioned in Juvenal's Satire Sixteen, but I don't recall that it also mentioned in his Satire Six as claimed in this article. That assertion needs a reference! GianniBGood (talk) 16:10, 10 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Dryden's translation is not exactly faithful, and he omits it, but it's at VI.85 in the section on Eppia (Hippia in Dryden) the senator's wife. But I can't find Canopus in satire XVI, in Dryden or Juvenal! Where is that? Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 21:44, 13 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

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Pre-Alexandria was referred to as Rhakotis. So the r in both the demotic and one of the glyphs confirms the rhakotis rendering. It has been postulated that this term meant construction site; I think instead, this name, Rhakotis, is probably derived from Rhekmire. 2600:1700:5980:5190:C081:492D:7C9B:48D9 (talk) 03:08, 21 October 2024 (UTC)Reply