Talk:Canopy Growth
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Article was overdue for an update
editMarijuana is becoming big business in Canada as the legalization for recreational purposes will be finalized in 2017. Hence, it is also a hot topic.
CGC is the biggest player in this market and is also exporting cannabis to two other countries. It just announced a takeover of another major competitor. I have done the update with many citations from major Canadian news organizations. Peter K Burian (talk) 14:01, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
The article reads somewhat as a promotional piece.
editHere are some examples:
"Cannabis in Canada will be legal for recreational use after the Senate confirms the legislation passed by the House of Commons, most likely in summer of 2018.[7] That will significantly increase the market demand for marijuana"
"Previously, Canopy Growth had been operating at a loss (–$3.3 million in income in 2015, for example) partly because it was using funds for production expansion and to acquire competitors in preparation for significantly increased cannabis demand by the recreational use market in early 2018. Even after the 2015 results had been published, some analysts remained positive about the company's future value.[37] For example, in early December 2016, Reuter's survey of four market analysts had indicated a consensus rating of Buy.[38] Prior to the release of the 2016 results, the company had a valuation of $1.6 billion. On 2 February 2017, Canopy shares had more than tripled in the previous 12 months, and stood at $10.20 at 11:10 a.m. on the Toronto Stock Exchange (ticker WEED).[39]
The stock price continued to increase, to over $12 in the following days. On 14 February, after the year end report had been was released, Canopy Growth's share price fell seven percent, but even then, it stood at $12.09.[40]" --185.230.124.59 (talk) 04:08, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
Tweed name change
editHi Charlottethecat, I noticed that you remade the same edit claiming that Canopy is a separate company from Tweed. As per your own sources and your article text, Canopy is Tweed. It was just a name change. https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/tweed-marijuana-inc-renamed-canopy-growth-corporation-528475771.html Also, please note that even if Canopy was a separate company that came from Tweed (it isn't), that would mean that it was founded in 2015, not 2013, and that Canopy's relationship to Tweed and Tweed's founding by Chuck and Bruce would still be mentioned here (and would continue to be mentioned here even if Tweed had a separate article). e.g. You don't see separate articles for CanniMed and Prairie Plant Systems, because it's one corporate entity (even though those two actually are separate companies), and even if Prairie Plant Systems had a separate article created, their history would still be listed in a summarized form on CanniMed's page (including the founders and founding date). 72.143.55.131 (talk) 19:24, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Charlottethecat, please stop reverting edits without addressing the reasons your edits were reverted. On a side note, I highly recommend editing some pages other than just the Canopy Growth Corporation page to get a feel for how Wikipedia works (as all 15 of your edits so far have been of this page, with most of them being about CGC's executives and board members). 72.143.55.131 (talk) 21:41, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Charlottethecat, again, please stop reverting edits without addressing the reasons your edits were reverted, and also please stop creating stubs.38.32.57.34 (talk) 05:14, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
- Again?38.32.57.34 (talk) 23:11, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- Hi I revereted it this time. I didnt seem to be sourced. I will check it tommorrow, from the available sources. scope_creepTalk 00:59, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- Hi scope_creep. Per Charlottethecat's sources (and per Charlottethecat's chosen text), "Tweed was founded by Bruce Linton and Chuck Rifici in 2013, and renamed Canopy Growth Corporation in 2015.". That would mean that the company's founders (for the sidebar) are "Bruce Linton and Chuck Rifici" (as per Charlottethecat's text as of 14:18, 21 March 2019). If the company was refounded in 2015 (it wasn't, but even if it somehow was), then the founders list would need to be much larger, as it wasn't a one-man show by that point. 38.32.57.34 (talk) 18:58, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- Hi scope_creep. Following up on this. I noticed that you removed some non-independent sources on the 16th (my preference is to keep primary sources for dates and supplement with independent sources in accordance with WP:PRIMARY, but I digress), but I believe the remaining sources still support the fact that Tweed was renamed to Canopy Growth (which continues to use the name Tweed as a subbrand), and that Canopy Growth (formerly known as Tweed) was founded in 2013 by Bruce Linton and Chuck Rifici.38.32.57.34 (talk) 22:32, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
- 38.32.57.34 I removed certain references due to them being Non RS and/or being promotional. I'm not bothered who founded the company as its not about the founders. scope_creepTalk 23:05, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, as I mentioned, I was digressing a bit there. A source being primary doesn't make it non-reliable by itself (especially for basic data), but they definitely should be supported by independent sources whenever possible. My preference is to keep primary sources and supplement with independent sources (or at least tagging them that additional citations are needed with the third-party inline tag like this [third-party source needed]), but replacing them outright works too. 38.32.57.34 (talk) 00:58, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
- 38.32.57.34 If you can find a reference that proves it one way or the other who founded the company, please put it in. scope_creepTalk 07:57, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
- There's already one in the article, and it is referred to as such in the body. It's just the sidebar where there's currently a mismatch. https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/tweed-marijuana-co-founder-chuck-rifici-resigns-from-board 38.32.57.34 (talk) 00:58, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
- If there's no further objections, I will proceed with fixing the error in the sidebar. 38.32.57.34 (talk) 17:23, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
- Bit confused. Looks like it was reverted, but then someone added it back. If we need more citations, here are a few more. https://business.financialpost.com/cannabis/cannabis-business/my-turn-is-over-high-profile-canopy-growth-co-ceo-bruce-linton-steps-down https://business.financialpost.com/investing/the-godfather-of-canadian-weed-is-digging-himself-out-of-another-sticky-situation https://ottawacitizen.com/business/local-business/growing-pains-co-founders-of-smiths-falls-marijuana-start-up-in-legal-battle https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/video/canopy-growth-co-founder-i-m-back-in-the-weed-world~1118521 https://ipolitics.ca/2017/05/01/former-liberal-treasurer-suing-marijuana-company-for-wrongful-dismissal/ https://news.vice.com/en_ca/article/zmqdkx/meet-the-investors-pouring-millions-into-canadian-weed-companies https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/bruce-linton-canopy-growth-ceo-1.5198116 https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/medical-marijuana-tycoon-plays-down-controversy-over-cfo-job-with-federal-liberals 38.32.57.34 (talk) 00:30, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
- If there's no further objections, I will proceed with fixing the error in the sidebar. 38.32.57.34 (talk) 17:23, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
- There's already one in the article, and it is referred to as such in the body. It's just the sidebar where there's currently a mismatch. https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/tweed-marijuana-co-founder-chuck-rifici-resigns-from-board 38.32.57.34 (talk) 00:58, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
- 38.32.57.34 I removed certain references due to them being Non RS and/or being promotional. I'm not bothered who founded the company as its not about the founders. scope_creepTalk 23:05, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hi scope_creep. Following up on this. I noticed that you removed some non-independent sources on the 16th (my preference is to keep primary sources for dates and supplement with independent sources in accordance with WP:PRIMARY, but I digress), but I believe the remaining sources still support the fact that Tweed was renamed to Canopy Growth (which continues to use the name Tweed as a subbrand), and that Canopy Growth (formerly known as Tweed) was founded in 2013 by Bruce Linton and Chuck Rifici.38.32.57.34 (talk) 22:32, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hi scope_creep. Per Charlottethecat's sources (and per Charlottethecat's chosen text), "Tweed was founded by Bruce Linton and Chuck Rifici in 2013, and renamed Canopy Growth Corporation in 2015.". That would mean that the company's founders (for the sidebar) are "Bruce Linton and Chuck Rifici" (as per Charlottethecat's text as of 14:18, 21 March 2019). If the company was refounded in 2015 (it wasn't, but even if it somehow was), then the founders list would need to be much larger, as it wasn't a one-man show by that point. 38.32.57.34 (talk) 18:58, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- Hi I revereted it this time. I didnt seem to be sourced. I will check it tommorrow, from the available sources. scope_creepTalk 00:59, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- Again?38.32.57.34 (talk) 23:11, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Charlottethecat, again, please stop reverting edits without addressing the reasons your edits were reverted, and also please stop creating stubs.38.32.57.34 (talk) 05:14, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Charlottethecat, please stop reverting edits without addressing the reasons your edits were reverted. On a side note, I highly recommend editing some pages other than just the Canopy Growth Corporation page to get a feel for how Wikipedia works (as all 15 of your edits so far have been of this page, with most of them being about CGC's executives and board members). 72.143.55.131 (talk) 21:41, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
Merger proposal
editI think Hiku Brands can be merged with the Canopy Growth Wikipedia page. Since acquiring the company, Canopy has seemingly wound Hiku and absorbed its brands. hiku.com now directs to Canopy Growth's website, and Canopy Growth lists brands gain through the Hiku acquisition alongside their other brands without mentioning Hiku. https://www.canopygrowth.com/brands/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bikebagel (talk • contribs) 23:34, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Bikebagel: Please post a merge tag on the two article, so folk can discuss it. Thanks. scope_creepTalk 10:58, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- And it needs to sit there for 2-8 weeks to enable some comments to come in. scope_creepTalk 11:00, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Bikebagel: Please post a merge tag on the two article, so folk can discuss it. Thanks. scope_creepTalk 10:58, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Proposed merge with Hiku Brands
editSince acquiring the company, Canopy Growth has seemingly wound Hiku and absorbed its brands. hiku.com now directs to Canopy Growth's website, and Canopy Growth lists brands gain through the Hiku acquisition alongside their other brands without mentioning Hiku scope_creepTalk 19:35, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support With no possible future significant coverage, it clearly lacks standalone notability, so I'd support the merge closer to pick out which content is the best to merge into one or more sections of Canopy Growth in order to improve the one assuming article. Doug Mehus (talk) 07:10, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support Seems reasonable. scope_creepTalk 10:27, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
- Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 18:00, 18 April 2020 (UTC)