Talk:Carbonated soda treatment of phytobezoars
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Shouldn't this be deleted for lack of notability?
editIt seems more like a puff piece for a commercial product. Gnuish (talk) 06:27, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- This article meets the standard of notability. Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 22:07, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
Removal of sections
editI have removed four sections of the article (see below) that are either vacuous, irrelevant, or both.
- Manufacturing: The popularity of the Coca-Cola brand has nothing to do with its use as a bezoar treatment.
- Society and culture: The fact that the topic of the article is notable is not, in itself, a useful piece of information.
- Recreational use: Same as manufacturing, Coca-Cola's non-medicinal use is not relevant to this article.
- Research: This one is debatable, but a statement saying that "further investigation has been encouraged" could be applied to pretty much any science and medicine topic so I deleted this one as well.
If anyone disagrees with this reasoning, please discuss here. 2601:644:2:B64B:DCDA:DD35:EC9F:F831 (talk) 07:36, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
Manufacturing
editCoca-Cola is the best-selling soft drink in most countries, and was recognized as the number one global brand in 2010.[1]
Society and culture
editWith increasing frequency, unusual cases of phytobezoars are reported in the news, along with the information about treatment with Coca-Cola.[2][3][4]
Recreational use
editCoca-Cola's primary use is recreational and its medicinal use is of recent origin.[5] It has been described as the 'first energy drink'.[6]
Research
editThe protocol for the treatment of phytobezoars with Coca-Cola, i.e., dosage and timing, has not been standardized; further investigation has been encouraged.[5]
References
- ^ "Best Global Brands Ranking for 2010". Interbrand.com. Retrieved July 29, 2012.
- ^ "Urban Legends Of Your Digestive Tract". Huffington Post. Retrieved 2015-07-10.
- ^ "Bizarre blog about medical bezoars". Dallas Morning News. September 26, 2014. Retrieved 2015-07-10.
- ^ "Coca-cola recommended as 'medical cure' for stomach blockages". The Daily Telegraph. Retrieved 2015-07-12.
- ^ a b Iwamuro M.; Okada H.; Matsueda K.; Inaba T.; Kusumoto C.; Imagawa A.; Yamamoto K. (2015). "Review of the diagnosis and management of gastrointestinal bezoars". World Journal of Gastrointestinal Endoscopy. 7 (4): 336–345. doi:10.4253/wjge.v7.i4.336.
{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link) - ^ "Gatorade to Geritol, all claim to put pep in your step". The Philadelphia Tribune. Retrieved 2015-07-12.
Merge with phytobezoar
editShould this not be merged with phytobezoar? Samir 02:25, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
Moved here
edit"You crack me up! Only Coca-Cola dissolves phytobezoars, not pepsi, not mountain dew. This claim is in the refs" by User:Barbara (WVS)
- Comments go on the talk page.
- If you look at this 2016 textbook is says "Carbonated soda (e.g., Coca Cola) may be effective in the dissolution of over 50% of cases of phytobezoars and over 90% when combined with endoscopic methods"[1] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:06, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- And other refs 'say' that other carbonated drinks do not dissolve phytobezoars. I have a quote from one source that is a pun with the word pepsi in it that is an illustration. Besides, beer and wine don't dissolve bezoars and I'll bet a lot of med students have tried this treatment prophylactically.Regards,Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 22:11, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- I have provided a direct link to the source I used. Can you list the other sources when you are discussing them. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:14, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- Well when I get my library card working again we can play "Who has the best references". Best Regards and with respect,Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 22:36, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- Sure no worries. There is no deadline. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:46, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- Well when I get my library card working again we can play "Who has the best references". Best Regards and with respect,Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 22:36, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- I have provided a direct link to the source I used. Can you list the other sources when you are discussing them. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:14, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- And other refs 'say' that other carbonated drinks do not dissolve phytobezoars. I have a quote from one source that is a pun with the word pepsi in it that is an illustration. Besides, beer and wine don't dissolve bezoars and I'll bet a lot of med students have tried this treatment prophylactically.Regards,Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 22:11, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
Accuracy of paraphrasing
editI am not sure how this ref [2] supported "The use of Coca-Cola is often the primary treatment recommended to dissolve phytobezoars"?
The ref says "Smaller bezoars may be treated with conservative medical management; usually this consists of a liquid diet for a short period of time and a prokinetic agent to promote gastric emptying... Carbonated soda (e.g., Coca Cola) may be effective in the dissolution of over 50% of cases of phytobezoars and over 90% when combined with endoscopic methods." Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:18, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
Anyway have adjusted Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:18, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
History
edit- In your edit history you mentioned that the article is not about the medicinal history of Coca-Cola. Well yes it is, because there is no content on WP on this topic and this is the only place for it at this time.Regards,Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 22:30, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- Would belong on the page about Coca Cola. This article is about "treatment of phytobezoars". It is not about a general history of the medical use of Coca Cola. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:43, 13 May 2017 (UTC)