Talk:Carmel High School (Indiana)

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refs required. Check alumni is complete. Good "start" Victuallers 18:21, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Hiya, does ne1 else here goto Carmel High School? Cuz I do! --Adam (http://www.ifobos.com) 01:42, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

What's with the shameless advertisement? --David Li (yes, bagel spite one) 68.33.187.203 02:56, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Seems to me that a lot of this, excluding the (current) vandalism, isn't all that unbiased. Not that any significant portion of the population visits the Wikipedia entry for CHS anyways...

If you insist on mentioning the speed bump on Wiki, you must do so in NPOV fashion. If you want to make Wiki some sort of a billboard of protest regarding the speed bump, don't. Jxyama 07:47, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

I made a classic "weasel word" blunder. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_weasel_words. I've consequently removed the speed bump mention. If someone actually attends CHS, please add factual information on how many speed bumps were added, how many per road, etc. to support the claim of excessiveness. Jxyama 04:34, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Spelling Bee "Notability"

• That may very well be, but this is not Carmel High School Wikipedia. This is a web encyclopedia for the entire world, and nobody outside a very small group of people have any idea who this person is. He was already deemed not notable enough for a page, thus he is not notable enough for inclusion in wikipedia. 74.132.172.179 22:50, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

• Did anyone actually read WP:Notability?

A topic is notable if it has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works from sources that are reliable and independent of the subject itself and each other. All topics must meet a minimum threshold of notability in order for an article on that topic to be included in Wikipedia. This requirement ensures that there exists enough source material to write a verifiable, encyclopedic article about the topic.

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Agreed, subject does not meet ANY standard notability test for inclusion in wikipedia. I've got this sneaking suspicion that this person is the one editing the page to include his name. I've also got a suspicion that Heyhey Hey is a sock puppet of Chicodemexico, as such I am going to report them as suspected sock puppets of each other. If said users add the non-notable information again i'm going to report them as vandals for persistently inserting information against this talk page discussion as well as reinserting deleted material after it has been speedily deleted on non-notable grounds. 74.132.172.179 03:48, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

NONE of that even comes close to meeting wikipedia requirements for notability. Once again...come back when he's received NATIONAL attention. Someone at another middle school knowing you is not impressive. Perhaps it is to him, but it certainly is not to wikipedia. He is still non-notable. 74.132.172.179 11:37, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

You can still add notable students though. Its just like putting the principal for carmel high school down. hes not notable, but we've still included him. So these students are not notable to the world, but they are important to carmel high school

Well, no...it's completely different. The principal is included in the information box of all High Schools which use the box. Not because HE is notable, but because the school is notable enough for a page and MUCH discussion was held about what to include and what not to include in the information box. You just made the point AGAINST notability and inclusion when you said "not notable to the world, but important to carmel high school." This page is not FOR Carmel High School. It is FOR the world, and to the world, these students are NOT NOTABLE. The one spelling bee kid has already been the subject of a page that lasted LESS than a day and was speedy deleted as non-notable. The other kid MAY ONE DAY become notable if he does indeed play college ball, but only if he does something special while playing. Simply put, these students DO NOT meet the most BASIC requirement of notability for inclusion in wikipedia. If you have a problem with the criteria, take it up on the talk page of the notability guidelines where it's supposed to go. The continued insertion of non-notable people against consensus and talk page discussion IS vandalism, and will be reverted when made. I'm sorry that your friends are viewed by the wikipedia community as non-notable, but that's simply the way it is. 74.132.172.179 00:20, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Wait ive got one more question. This page is suppose to imform people about carmel high school, and one of the aspects of carmel high school is its students. So why cant you just change the notable students to popular students, that has nothing to do with notablilty.

student number

therse 3999 according to carmel high school

actually, Carmel High School says it has more than 4,001 students, which was the total number at the end of the 2005-2006 school year. Currently, they say they have more, not counting students that moved in during the school year

-4,015 people actually

Notability of Alumni

There are several new additions to the "notable" alumni section that seem entirely worthless. It looks like somebody who graduated '07 had a field day adding people. There are several people on there now who don't have their own Wikipedia page. 12:05, 4 Mar 2013

I removed the following list of alumni, because I do not believe they are notable.

• Jason Maddux- Mayor of Kodiak Alaska
• Daniel Schmeltekop- Record Producer
• Rob Mathes- Agricultural Pioneer

If you believe they are notable by the Wikipedia guidelines, please leave a message here. RJaguar3 | u | t 02:09, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Can we all agree not to add anyone to the alumni page without reaching a consensus here on this talk page? RJaguar3 | u | t 18:42, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Notable Alumini: Eric Clark -namesake of the Eric Clark Activity Center (includes the basketball gym, fieldhouse, and swimming pool facilities). Coached Carmel to 1977 State Championship in baskebtall. Links: http://www.hoopshall.com/inductees/2001/clark.html http://www.ccs.k12.in.us/chsA/ECAC%20pictures.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.223.130.44 (talk) 23:53, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree let's have gay sex. RJaguar3 | u | t 01:35, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-pennsylvania/616638-please-chance-my-ed-hopes-wharton.html

Is this legit?

Timothy Chai from Carmel High School said he interend at Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton (LVMH) and Hong Kong Shanghai Banking Corporation (HKSBC) thats pretty good for a high schooler —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.119.135.108 (talk) 21:18, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Limited to people who have a Wikipedia article of their own (although perhaps some of those are candidates for AfD). David notMD (talk) 11:35, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

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History copy paste

Does anyone know where the history section was copy pasted from? because when I ran it through the plagiarism checkers they only came up with this article, and sites that, as User:John from Idegon pointed out, copy pasted from this article. (talk) 23:31, 24 April 2018 (UTC)Caleb The Wipper

Hi Caleb. My guess is that liquid whatever was it. So if no one objects in a week feel free to remove the maintenance tag. In the alternative, you could search the history and ask he who added it. John from Idegon (talk) 00:05, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

I just checked the history, and apparently it was copied from http://www1.ccs.k12.in.us/chs/uploads/File/chs-general/handbook.pdf, which is the homework assignment notebook that us CHS students get every year. Turns out, only the first 4 sentences are copy pasted (with the minor discrepancy that the notebook said there were 4 construction projects); the history section doesn't even mention the Freshman Center or the new section of the athletic center. So all I need to do is remove the first few sentences and the template, and add the notebook as a source.Caleb The Wipper (talk) 00:35, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Proposed merge with WHJE

Radio station run by school, little coverage. Not notable enough to have its own page. Tacyarg (talk) 23:44, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

But the radio station is independently notable. Virtually all broadcast radio and television stations in the US are notable, based on the sheer volume of accessable paperwork that must be filed to get and maintain a license. On that basis alone, I oppose. John from Idegon (talk) 23:54, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks - have removed merge templates. Tacyarg (talk) 08:58, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

This is the largest High School in Indiana (also I go there so I am biased)

This school has over 6,000 students enrolled in 2020 it is the biggest High school in all of Indiana and one of the biggest in all the US, why then is so bare bones? (Also I go there and I want to feel special that I go to a school with a chunky article.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vallee01 (talk • contribs) 21:14, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

I go there too, but WP:NPOV says we can't purposefully give it special treatment. In fact, the article currently has a bit too much bias. It's gotten worse since the only section that isn't considered the bottom of the page is extracurricular activities. It use to have a History section but that disappeared. Caleb M1 (talk) 13:39, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

It's bare-bones because everyone that edits here seems hung up on the fact that more kids attend high school in this school than any other school in Indiana. How is that important? It's at best trivial and the only inference that might be drawn from it is perhaps the district needs a second high school. What makes an encyclopedia article good is content about the school drawn from reliable secondary sources. The history section is gone because it wasn't sourced or neutral, and what was sourced was recent news with no indication of widespread or long-term interest. This could be a good article. That takes work. John from Idegon (talk) 17:48, 6 May 2020 (UTC)