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Carole Chaski is an internationally known expert in forensic science. I am working on getting more secondary sources to substantiate her notability. Please see, in the meantime, the ILE website linked to the article. I appreciate a few days to gather additional sources.

Thank you.--BenJonson (talk) 01:41, 2 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

Since writing the above, I added a secondary source that should obviate all concern about notability. Please see Lawrence Solan and Peter Meijes Tiersma, Speaking of Crime: the Language of Criminal Justice, Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2005, 169-175.--BenJonson (talk) 01:42, 2 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

I supplied references to five of Dr. Chaski's peer reviewed publications and removed the "citations needed tag." This article already has more citations than many contemporary biographies. Nor is there any case for the absence of NPOV or other violations. Thanks to those who have helped with page by adding sections, rephrasing the lead, etc.--BenJonson (talk) 03:53, 2 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

I'm not sure why Crusio has reapplied the {{refimproveBLP|date=March 2010}} flag. I would appreciate discussion and actual comment on this question, to clarify how many citations would be required so that the flag would remain off. There are now 22 citations referring specifically to Chaski or cases on which she has worked. How many citations does an article require before the refimprov flag can be removed? Meanwhile, I have added flag which does, however apply: Please help improve this article. --BenJonson (talk) 11:36, 2 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

  • The reason I added that tag is simple: there are several unsourced statements in the article. Sourcing is very important, in particular for biographies of living persons (commonly referred to as BLP on WP). For example, the last two paragraphs of the "career" section are unsourced. Same for the first phrases about her degrees. The following phrase of her "helping establish" a society is a bit strongly worded, given that the reference that is provided only gives a simple list of founding members. This is an encyclopedia and it is important to be exact and only write what is supported by reliable independent secondary sources, not our interpretation or (even worse) own opinion. TALE is hosted on the site of the Institute for linguistic Evidence (Chaski's company) and is therefore not really an independent source. --Crusio (talk) 14:02, 2 March 2010 (UTC)Reply


Hi Crusio, thanks for the feedback. You're right, the final sections about Dr. Chaski's career are not adequately sourced. --BenJonson (talk) 23:48, 2 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
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