Talk:Carpenter House (Norwich, Connecticut)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Bobamnertiopsis (talk · contribs) 14:40, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Comments

1a: A few really minor comments here:

• Lead: "The gambrel roof and third story addition was added" → "were added"
• Importance: "It was made apart of" → "a part of"
• History: "Gardiner Carpenter ran his business in half of the shop as his brother, the Joseph Carpenter Silversmith Shop." I'm unclear on what this means; did he run the shop under his brother's name?
• "Gardiner Carpenter ran his business in half of the shop as his brother, the Joseph Carpenter Silversmith Shop. Gardiner Carpenter served as a pay master in the 17th Connecticut Regiment in the American Revolutionary War. Carpenter was the postmaster in Norwich from 1799 to 1814, shortly before his death in 1815." Is this all sequential? He was a silversmith then a pay master then a post master?

3a:

• It's unclear what this house is being used for today; is it a private residence? The 2002 article seems to indicate this.

Most issues fixed. Gardiner Carpenter was not a silversmith, but "local merchant" was about all I could dig up. He operated a business in the same building as his brother, but Gardiner does not seem to have any connection to the silversmith trade. The scrap dug up in the notes is rather bland and straight to the point: "He maintained a mercantile business in half of the shop that he shared with his brother, Joseph Carpenter, the silversmith." Records were not well kept from that era, but I'll look in some more obscure places. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 03:08, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Non-GA requirement comments for general improvement

You can completely ignore these for the sake of the review and you will still pass if the above comments are resolved...just some additional thoughts while I was reading through.

• It might not be a bad idea to mention Carpenter's first name outside of the house's title both times its first used, first in the lead, then in the History.
• Ref 3 wasn't working for me but it has been archived if you wanted to include that link. Same with ref 5, actually. It's here.
• Three different date styles are utilized throughout, in the prose and refs: 2014-06-25, 25 June 2014, and June 25, 2014. Consider standardizing.
• There are a lot of architectural terms in the Design section; maybe add some appropriate wikilinks.

These are pretty minor concerns; the article is in very good shape. I'll put it on hold for a week or however long you need to deal with the first header's criteria; again, the non-GA requirements are just that, so feel free to use those or ignore them as you please. Good luck! BobAmnertiopsis∴_ChatMe! 14:40, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

No activity from nominator since June 21, so will keep on hold for another week. BobAmnertiopsis∴_ChatMe! 15:50, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

I didn't get notified of this. Odd. Working on it now. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 02:53, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

I dug up a couple new sources thanks to the archivists and HathiTrust. The house does appear to be a private home, but I am not supposed to dig up public records on it unless it is truly relevant. The house went up for sale in 2002, and I haven't seen it make a return to the market. I do not want to highlight its value, or draw any undo attention for whoever could be the current owners. I rather not rant about my personal beliefs on the original survey, but that's another matter. The broken refs you had must have been temporary, the system sometimes goes down, but I assure you that links are operational now. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 04:23, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm confident that the changes made addressed my concerns. This article now fulfills the GA criteria and I'm happy to give it a pass! BobAmnertiopsis∴_ChatMe! 13:52, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! ChrisGualtieri (talk) 15:04, 18 July 2014 (UTC)