Talk:Carrow Road

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Dweller in topic Source material
Featured articleCarrow Road is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.
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[Done] Drive to FA

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User:The Rambling Man and I are undertaking to take this article to FA quality in the next few weeks. Apologies for any confusion during this period - there's a link to an unimproved (and unconfused) version of the article in the tag I've placed at the top of the article.

All collaborators in producing a quality article are welcomed. You can refresh your memory of the Featured Article criteria at WP:WIAFA.

A to-do list will follow here in due course. --Dweller (talk) 14:52, 13 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

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[Done] RS?

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Is this source reliable? --Dweller (talk) 14:11, 27 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Could well be. Published by Reed Business Information... The Rambling Man (talk) 10:53, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Used it, thanks. --Dweller (talk) 09:44, 16 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

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[Done] Jarrold stand/old South stand

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Regarding the old South stand being on the north side of the ground - google maps would seem to suggest it is more towards the south-east.[1] -NCFCQ (talk) 12:56, 21 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

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[Done] Map

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How easy would it be to include a map showing the ground in relation to station, river, cathedral, castle, main roads etc? --Dweller (talk) 11:37, 3 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

This is a good example of what you could do, now some OS maps are free... The Rambling Man (talk) 12:10, 3 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Hello old fella. Nice to hear from you. Sounds good. How do I go about it? --Dweller (talk) 12:18, 3 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Hey, not stopping, just passing! I'm not entirely sure myself. I'll have a play if I get a chance. In the meantime, you could get in touch with the author of the Whitehaven image file? The Rambling Man (talk) 13:04, 3 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
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[Done] Infobox image

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Of the various pictures in the Carrow Road cat at Commons ([2]), I think this exterior view is the best one for the infobox. What do others think? --Dweller (talk) 15:17, 4 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Agreed. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
As no-one has disagreed in 5 years, I'm going to make the change. --Dweller (talk) 19:36, 15 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
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[Done] Stand images

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I think a photo of each stand is a good idea, but we're not going to get enough text in each subsection to make them look right. Is this a case for a gallery? --Dweller (talk) 10:41, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Galleries (from memory) are often frowned upon at featured reviews... The Rambling Man (talk) 10:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
You could be right. How else could we cope with the problem? --Dweller (talk) 12:41, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
More text, or fewer images....? Put a stand image in the infobox? The Rambling Man (talk) 12:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Hmm. More text - if justifiable, not just to help the images. Fewer images is less desirable - surely we need a picture of each stand. Infobox can only hold one. Anyone got a bright idea? How have other stadium FAs handled this? --Dweller (talk) 13:18, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Other FAs (Portman Road, Priestfield Stadium) don't have a "Stands" section but "Structure and facilities" (with no individual subheadings) and they alternate images from side to side. Alternatively, maybe you could stack images using {{Multiple image}} or create a montage (on this basis, but better)? Or, get along there this evening take a {{Panorama}} and have the benefit of seeing Scott Loach keep a clean sheet on his 100th league appearance! Rambo's Revenge (talk) 14:03, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
111th? Thanks, some good ideas there. Sadly, I won't be at Carra Rud tonight, but my heart will be. --Dweller (talk) 14:19, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
I fancy the Beeb on that stat actually! (Actually, turns out his 11 for Stafford were non-league. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 14:28, 6 August 2010 (UTC)) I'll try and take a look at this article properly some other time. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 14:27, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. Interested in your views on the other questions on this page, too. --Dweller (talk) 14:29, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
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[Done] To-do list

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  1. Check structure is comprehensive
  2. Check history is comprehensive
  3. Add cn tags for every unsourced comment
  4. Source all cn tags
  5. Check references - cite formats, names and order
  6. MOS, MOSNUM, DASH etc
  7. Check photo captions and add explanatory text for visually-impaired users
  8. Third-party copyedit
  9. FAC

Anything missing? --Dweller (talk) 10:44, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

WRT "aim to getting it to Featured status" on WikiProject Football talk page, and I expect you'll know some/all of this, but it might be useful to others too... so I hope this won't seem condescending...
I moved some pics to the right, and removed forced sizes, per MOS.
Adding 'cn' tags does not make things OK; they need to be referenced or removed, prior to any attempt at FAC; it's all about verifiability. The references need to be consistent, and provide all the details possible - authors, dates, and so on; that becomes very important in heading towards FAC.
Yes, MOS things need fixing, particularly units of measure, which need  's...but, better, use {{convert}}.
A good checklist to run-through is User:Ealdgyth/GA review cheatsheet, especially for all the formatting things.
The best advice is, to look very closely at existing featured articles on similar topics, e.g. City of Manchester Stadium, Old Trafford.
You might also request a peer review.
Best of luck with progressing this; I only happened upon it by chance, from your mention on the project talk, so forgive my slightly out-of-the-blue edits...and "happy new season" to you too; sorry the first result didn't go your way, but hey, it was better than last season. Best,  Chzz  ►  23:22, 7 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. All very helpful. --Dweller (talk) 12:43, 9 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Updated below. --Dweller (talk) 09:48, 16 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

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[Done] Schematic plan

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Just a minor point about the schematic plan image of the ground. Technically the side boundaries of the G. Watling City Stand should be extensions of the side line of the pitch rather than the goal lines, since the Thorpe and Wensum corners are both part of this stand. -NCFCQ (talk) 11:14, 8 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

Not sure I understand this comment and NCFCQ seems to be inactive, and has no email contact. --Dweller (talk) 09:18, 19 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
OK. I get it. The diagram shows vertical lines marking the ends of the Watling, but they should be horizontal. The Rambling Man, who do we know who could knock up a better schematic, maybe an amalgam of the old one and the more complex one you posted a link to, below? Do you know the chap that made the current image ;-) ?--Dweller (talk) 09:36, 19 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
I'll have to use some stuff at work for that, so I'll take a look on Monday, remind me if I forget! The Rambling Man (talk) 10:31, 19 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
Splendiferous. --Dweller (talk) 11:43, 19 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

The Rambling Man Reminded. The more detailed schematic link is here, btw. --Dweller (talk) 12:42, 23 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

I need to get to this still.... The Rambling Man (talk) 13:09, 23 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
Oh goody. I think we're close to ready - see the to-do list. --Dweller (talk) 14:11, 23 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
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[Done] Some stats

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([3]) --Dweller (talk) 09:54, 12 July 2012 (UTC) That was very useful for one part of the article. --Dweller (talk) 09:20, 19 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

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[Done] Source material

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[4] --Dweller (talk) 10:29, 8 June 2015 (UTC) Used. --Dweller (talk) 09:21, 19 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

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[Done] Pictures

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I think there are probably too many.

I also think the one in the infobox is not a good representation of "the ground" - which of the many currently at [5] might work better? An external view perhaps? --Dweller (talk) 11:15, 10 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

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[Done] Records

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Is this one worthy of inclusion:

"Highest attendance (first home game of season, all-seater)"

Seems a little random to me. --Dweller (talk) 12:43, 11 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

Too much weight to a triviality in the big scheme of Carrow Road. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:53, 11 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
Agreed. --Dweller (talk) 13:13, 11 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
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To-do

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Things to do in preparation for WP:FAC:


Feel free to add to the list. --Dweller (talk) 10:44, 15 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

Reference 2 is a deadlink, but not tagged as such. Reference 3 does not mention the capacity of the ground. I think we ought to fine toothcomb the refs, I'm afraid. --Dweller (talk) 10:39, 17 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
I agree; by the way, I fixed ref 2 by adding the archive.org archived link. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:45, 19 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
As usual, you're a star. --Dweller (talk) 09:13, 19 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

Prose review

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I am carrying this out while the current FAC proceeds, and am leaving my comments here rather than cluttering the FAC page.

  • Second lead para I would rephrase: "Carrow Road, named after the road on which it is located" → "The Carrow Road ground, named after the road on which it is located,..."
    Good one. Done. --Dweller (talk) 12:14, 8 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Also: "with the ground opening on 31 August 1935" → "and opened on 31 August 1935".
    Yup. --Dweller (talk) 12:14, 8 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Third lead para: "The stadium has been extensively worked on several times during its history" → "The stadium has been altered and upgraded several times during its history..."
    That's history. --Dweller (talk) 12:37, 8 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Also: "...the old City (now "Geoffrey Watling City") Stand in 1984:" – ugly parenthetical interpolation in the middle of a proper name. Also, if the City Stand was destroyed, you can't say that it is now the Geoffrey Watling City Stand – that is the name of its replacement. Personally I'd just say "a devastating fire that destroyed the old City Stand in 1984".
    Now destroyed. --Dweller (talk) 12:37, 8 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Can you really call the club shop a "superstore"? The term is generally associated with very large out-of-town supermarkets.
    Not super enough for this article. Eradicated. --Dweller (talk) 12:37, 8 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Background: "with a record attendance of 10,366" → "where the record attendance was 10,366..." I wouldn't bother including the words "in a first round proper FA Cup match", which detail has nothing to do with Carrow Road.
    Reduced greatly. --Dweller (talk) 09:41, 10 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Can you provide the date when the pitch collapsed?
    No, but I'm not convinced it's a massive problem, unless/until we try to get The Nest featured. --Dweller (talk) 09:41, 10 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Stadium's name etc: "The new stadium took its name from the street which encloses the ground on three sides, the fourth being the River Wensum". Not quite sound, grammatically; suggest insert "boundary" after "fourth"
    Nice. Done. --Dweller (talk) 09:41, 10 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • "surgeon Philip M. Martineau" – false title. Since Martineau is not evidently notable this should be "a surgeon, Philip M. Martineau".
    Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:35, 8 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • The first paragraph of this section is something of a jumble. For example, I would expect the sentence about the possible Norse origins of "Carrow" to come in much earlier, perhaps as the second sentence in the paragraph.
    Good spot. --Dweller (talk) 09:41, 10 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • The comma after "1850" should be after "1840s"
    Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:35, 8 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • "the 20 year leasehold" → "a 20-year lease". Strangely, I see nothing in the article to indicate what happened when the 20-year period was up.
    Hyphenated, but "20-year leasehold" seems perfectly acceptable to me. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:36, 8 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • "with the rubble dumped as a bank at the river end of the new ground" → "and dumping the rubble at the river end of the new ground, to form a bank".
    Honestly, I think it's better as it is! --Dweller (talk) 11:40, 10 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Replace "but finally" with a simple "and"
    Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:32, 8 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • "The original stadium" → "The new stadium"?
    Excellent spot! --Dweller (talk) 11:40, 10 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • The quote marks in the first line of the third paragraph are confusing at present – it's not clear whether this is one or more than one quotation. Also, rather than "was described as", you should say who described it.
    I think it's better now. Agreed on the previous confusion. --Dweller (talk) 11:40, 10 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • "Inglis describes..." First mention of Inglis, give full name and description.
    Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:30, 8 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • "At this time, the ground's capacity was 38,000, with 10,000 of "the more vociferous of the home and away supporters", in the new Barclay end." I'd modify this, e.g. "...often to be found in the new Barclay end." (They weren't there all the time!)
    Think I found a better way still :-) --Dweller (talk) 14:19, 13 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Ground developments: "soon after" is not worthy of quote marks, it's routine wording. Suggest paraphrase as "shortly afterwards" (no quote marks)
    Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:30, 8 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • "In the wake of the Ibrox stadium disaster in 1971, safety licences were required by clubs which resulted in the capacity being drastically reduced to around 20,000." More detail required. It is not obvious why safety licences would result in the ground's capacity being almost halved.
    I think I've clarified --Dweller (talk) 14:19, 13 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • "A two-tier terrace was built at the River End and soon after seats began to replace the terraces." When was this terrace built, and why, if it was to be replaced by seats "soon after" (that phrase again).
    Done --Dweller (talk) 14:19, 13 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Conversion to all-seater: Figures need clarification. My guess is that after the 1990 Taylor Report pland were laid for a 27,000 all-seater stadium, and that this was finally realised in 2010. This, however, is not presently reflected in the text.
    Worse. It was just misleading. Fixed, thanks. --Dweller (talk) 09:15, 14 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Pitch: Rather than "intended to", I think you should say something like: "which, according to the supplier..."
    Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:27, 8 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Eightieth anniversary: As we are now well into July, I imagine that the date of the exhibition match against West Ham is now known. Since this match is being played at least a month before the actual anniversary, it can't really be said to "mark" the occasion. I would say "In anticipation of the occasion..."
    Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:26, 8 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • "Fans can also book to attend a celebratory dinner, designed by the club's joint majority shareholder Delia Smith, with the first-team squad." Trivia, non-encyclopaedic, recommend delete.

To be continued. Brianboulton (talk) 19:08, 7 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

(Continuing)

  • Norwich and Peterborough Stand: "The stand was renamed..." Did it have an official name previously? If not, it wasn't "renamed".it was "named".
    Fixed. --Dweller (talk) 13:46, 15 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • The Barclay: "The purpose of the rebuilding was "to allow for the implementation of an all-seater stadium as per Lord Chief Justice Taylor's report". Wordy, clunky. I would just tag on to the previous sentence "...in accordance with the recommendations of the Taylor Report". The report has been mentoned earlier, and doesn't need linking again here.
    Faxed. --Dweller (talk) 13:46, 15 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • The Barclay subsection ends with an uncited statement re floodlights. As this is the first mention of floodlighting since the £9,000 spent in the days of the ark, I would have expected to learn a little more about the development of the floodlighting arrangements on the ground.
    Foxed. Actually removed. It's really not encyclopedic. The ground has floodlights. And rooves. And walls. --Dweller (talk) 13:46, 15 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Visiting supporter accommodation: unnecessary subsection heading. The brief info and quote should be absorbed into the Jarrold section.
    I disagree. If I was a [potential] visiting supporter, it would be very helpful that it's separately subheaded. --Dweller (talk) 15:35, 16 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Holiday Inn Hotel: "The club had a 30% stake in the hotel business at its launch, and granted a 150 year lease" – a rather imprecise way of putting it. I woulod prefer: "The club granted Holiday Inns a 150-year lease, and took a 30% stake in the hotel", or some such.
    There was a crucial element missing, which was in the source. Now all sorted. --Dweller (talk) 15:35, 16 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Catering: I think you should introduce Delia Smith as the celebrity chef when she is first mentioned in the article, a few sections back. And the words "celberity chef" speak for themselves and do not require a link.
    Indeedy. --Dweller (talk) 15:35, 16 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Nor does the plain statement of fact "became a supporter of Norwich City in 1969 when she met her husband, writer and editor Michael Wynn-Jones" deserve to be presented as a quotation. Try a simple paraphrase.
    Hmm. There is, believe it or not, some dispute over Delia's allegiances (ridiculously) but you're still right, in fact, this gumpf isn't needed in this article at all. Gorn. --Dweller (talk) 15:35, 16 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Likewise, paraphrase the next verbatim sentence, beginning "The food is all based..." etc. Quotations should be used for striking phrases or for personal viewpoints, not for ordinary details which should be presented in your own wording.
    Eaten. --Dweller (talk) 15:35, 16 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • I don't think that the blurb "sleek, contemporary lines ... [that] would not be out of place in many a top London venue" is justified in an encyclopaedia article.
    No longer contemporary. --Dweller (talk) 15:35, 16 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Describe, rather than merely link, Bryan Gunn. In fact I would advise reconstruction of this entire sentence, which meanders on and on and on.
    Gunned down. --Dweller (talk) 15:35, 16 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Future plans for construction: delete the unnecessary words "for more".
    Done --Dweller (talk) 10:31, 20 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Another factual sentence needing paraphrasing ("boasted one of..." etc)
    Dine. --Dweller (talk) 10:31, 20 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • I am not sure of the usefulness of "therefore periodically", or of "Specifically" at the start of the following paragraph
    Dane. Well, except, I've left both "therefore" and "periodically" as they do add something. Therefore correctly shows a linkage of thought and periodically correctly shows that it's not a one-off thing, but something that recurs from time to time. --Dweller (talk) 10:31, 20 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Should "included" ("these plans included building a second tier...") be in the present tense?
    Dune. --Dweller (talk) 10:31, 20 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • First mention of "Championship" since lead. I think you should spell it out, and link it.
    It was unnecessary detail. Hacked it out. --Dweller (talk) 13:38, 20 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Paraphrase Burkett's comments - verbatim quotation unnecessary.
    I've shortened the quoted parts, but I think some of the verbatim was good and kept it. --Dweller (talk) 13:38, 20 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Likewise the quote, presumably from the chief executive, that concludes the section.
    Durn. --Dweller (talk) 13:38, 20 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Other uses: The "but" in the first line would read better as an "although"
    Not the way I write. :-) --Dweller (talk) 14:12, 20 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • I'm not sure we need so much detail about the five U-21 internationals played at Carrow Road. The article is about the ground rtaher than the matches played there. Consider reducing these details a little
    That's a good point. Bashed it around a bit. --Dweller (talk) 14:12, 20 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • I wouldn't bother with the Tom Jones cancellation, either.
    I definitely agree. --Dweller (talk) 14:12, 20 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

These, although fairly numerous, are mainly quite minor points and can be easily fixed. I have made a few complimentary fixes myself. A more substantial concern, to me, is the over-reliance on verbatim quotes when a simple paraphrase is called for; this definitely needs looking at. Please ping me when you feel you've addressed these points. Brianboulton (talk) 15:00, 8 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

Excellent stuff and a good comment, picking up a flaw in my editing style, stemming, I think, from worrying about close paraphrasing. I'll review whether we can ditch some. --Dweller (talk) 15:03, 8 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

Brianboulton All done/responded to, methinks. --Dweller (talk) 14:13, 20 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

WP:BRD

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@The Rambling Man: Following WP:BRD I'm staring this (short, hopefully) discussion. The link in [6] is dead.Or at least it is a soft 404, since it is redirecting to the home/main page, instead of the intended subpage (see the link) it was intended for, so ergo it is dead. (tJosve05a (c) 05:03, 11 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

Which link? --Dweller (talk) 08:13, 2 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

Capacity

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I was about to update the capacity using the 2015/16 Premier League handbook with their figure of 27,010, before realising that figure is lower than the 27,036 attendance recorded at the start of the season. Either the Premier League have incorrectly recycled an old figure, or there were 26 Canaries perched on one of the stands ;) Mattythewhite (talk) 12:21, 23 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

Lol, Mattythewhite. In the article, we have the official capacity as 27,244, a couple of hundred more than that highest all-seater attendance. --Dweller (talk) 15:11, 24 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

1986 Women's FA Cup Final

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Seems to have hosted 1986 women's final between Norwich L.F.C. and Doncaster Belles L.F.C. https://womensfootballarchive.wordpress.com/cup-finals/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.217.12.56 (talk) 11:08, 29 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

That's great, thanks. It'll be added. --Dweller (talk) 13:19, 31 August 2015 (UTC)Reply
Ah, no it won't. The site is just a blog and wouldn't pass our criteria for a reliable source. I'd love to add the fact though. I'll do some digging and see if I can find RS. --Dweller (talk) 08:08, 1 September 2015 (UTC)Reply
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I have just modified 2 external links on Carrow Road. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

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([7]) --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 21:17, 29 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

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([8]) --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 11:24, 28 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

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[9] --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 11:20, 30 July 2019 (UTC)Reply