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Do you think it might make sense to add some sort of protection to this article given that most of the recent edits have been different IPs removing material that is then readded? I don't think there's actually been a discussion here of this topic btw, so perhaps that should be had. But unfortunately I'm on the side of I'm lazy and it is sourced, so can't really represent the viewpoints of the people deleting content. Talpedia (talk) 18:01, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
- I requested such protection two weeks ago and it was declined due to “insufficient evidence of disruption”. You would be welcome to try again, however, as I agree. Jtrevor99 (talk) 18:11, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
Women and Castration Part 2
[edit]The five edits since my last have involved a dispute over how to discuss oophorectomy, sometimes called "female castration," in the article. Editors have debated this same topic in the past, particularly in this section of the talk page archive. I encourage everyone to read the whole thing for the full context, but I would like to highlight and second the comment by Dfeuer that "While the ovaries are anatomically homologous to the testes, oophorectomy is not culturally equivalent to castration." Because of the differing sociocultural contexts, I think that this article should focus on orchidectomy, and that searches for the term "female castration" should be redirected automatically to the article on oophorectomy. (Edit: I just checked and discovered that the redirect already exists.) Huntthetroll (talk) 20:42, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes but, a short, clearly qualified mention of oophorectomy is still valuable for the following reasons:Reliable medical sources explicitly include it. The National Cancer Institute (NCI) Dictionary of Cancer Terms defines castration as: "Removal or destruction of the testicles or ovaries using radiation, surgery, or drugs."
- It also has a dedicated entry for "surgical castration" that lists both orchiectomy and oophorectomy. This usage is common in oncology when discussing hormone suppression therapies for breast and prostate cancer.
- Reader utility. Someone searching for "female castration" or reading medical literature that uses the term will benefit from a brief note directing them to the correct context, even if the redirect already exists. A one- or two-sentence clarification improves the article without changing its overall scope.
- Anatomical and functional parallelism. While the sociocultural contexts differ, the biological effect — suppression of sex hormone production — is directly analogous. Medical literature sometimes uses "surgical castration" for both procedures for this reason.
- I therefore suggest a concise, neutrally worded sentence such as:"In medical contexts, particularly oncology, the term is occasionally also applied to the removal or functional suppression of the ovaries in females (oophorectomy)."
- This respects the article’s primary focus while adding accuracy supported by high-quality sources. Would this kind of limited addition be acceptable, or do others see problems with it? Knowledge12eeS (talk) 10:00, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- Per the existing consensus, I removed your addition from the lead. It definitely should not be in the lead. This page is not about Oophorectomy, which has its own page. We already had it in a see also but as you reverted my removal I moved it to a new section on the page, headed Oophorectomy. I don't really think it is due in an article about male castration, and I think medically the female procedure is almost universally referred to as Oophorectomy. As per Huntthetroll above, and per previous discussions, Oophorectomy is not culturally equivalent to castration, and that is not a normal usage of the term. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 10:11, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- I think the article already covers modern medical uses such as chemical castration and orchiectomy for prostate cancer. In exactly the same medical domain — oncology and hormone suppression — reliable sources routinely use "castration" (including "surgical castration" and "female castration") for oophorectomy as well.
- Medical literature and FDA labeling (e.g., for hormone replacement) have long used "female castration" for bilateral oophorectomy, especially in breast cancer treatment and surgical menopause. And I Provided NIH source to assert what I said. Some Judicial systems considered castration as penalty for female sexual offenders. oophorectomy is considered female castration by Medical terminology and Judicial systems. I request many parties to see in this matter thoroughly. Knowledge12eeS (talk) 10:35, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- Per the existing consensus, I removed your addition from the lead. It definitely should not be in the lead. This page is not about Oophorectomy, which has its own page. We already had it in a see also but as you reverted my removal I moved it to a new section on the page, headed Oophorectomy. I don't really think it is due in an article about male castration, and I think medically the female procedure is almost universally referred to as Oophorectomy. As per Huntthetroll above, and per previous discussions, Oophorectomy is not culturally equivalent to castration, and that is not a normal usage of the term. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 10:11, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
Oophorectomy and Castration
[edit]I understand that this article is primarily about male castration — I did not try to change the lead definition or turn the page gender-neutral. I only added one short, qualified sentence noting that in medical contexts the term is sometimes also applied to oophorectomy.The NCI Dictionary of Cancer Terms (a reliable .gov source) explicitly defines castration as “Removal or destruction of the testicles or ovaries...” and has a separate entry for surgical castration that includes oophorectomy. The Oophorectomy article also acknowledges the biological equivalence.My intention was only to add a brief, sourced note for completeness (e.g. in the terminology or medical section), not to alter the main focus of the article. .@sirfuboy Knowledge12eeS (talk) 09:52, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- I've answered this in the section above that you also replied to, where you found the existing consensus not to include this. That is, in the section Talk:Castration#Women and Castration Part 2. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 10:14, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
Louisiana Surgical Castration as Legal Consequence
[edit]This article mentions that Louisiana passed a law allowing judges to impose "chemical castration" on those convicted of certain sex crimes, however the article from Huffpost and the Louisiana Legislature website indicate surgical castration as the legal consequence that was signed into law in 2024. Can someone more savvy with Wikipedia than me help with making this article more accurate in this regard? The law is La. R.S. 14:43.7 JGard4159 (talk) 01:46, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
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