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This article was nominated for deletion on 9 July 2012. The result of the discussion was keep. |
Neutrality and Old Deletion Request
editReason given for deletion: It is blatant advertising for a company, product, group, service or person that would require a substantial rewrite in order to become an encyclopedia article. (CSD G11)
- Response: it is a valid 12-step recovery program acknowledged by the White House, cites given. -Bikinibomb 23:06, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
- Also see criticisms which establish article neutrality. -Bikinibomb 04:03, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Today, as a secular mental health professional, I encountered my first client who told me about their time in “Celebrate Recovery”. Thanks to this Wiki article, I found the information I needed. This entry serves exactly the purpose Wikipedia was created for. To help people get the information they need. I vote to keep the article. Jeff Vollmer 2/13/11 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.16.154.104 (talk) 00:51, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
This article is, for the most part, true. There are some problems with accuracy, though. In the first line "...overcoming habits like sex disorders and drug addictions with a twelve-step program..." is inaccurate. The line should read "...goaovercoming hurts, habits, and hangups with an 8 principle program derived from a twelve-step program..." The first line of the second paragraph "...Celebrate Recovery meetings are similar to those of other twelve-step programs..." couldn't be more wrong. Twelve-step programs have informal, open-share meetings which usually last about an hour. CRs are 3 - 4 hours including has a dinner, a worship/teaching or testamony (speaker) meeting, a structured discussion group based on the teaching/testamony followed by a coffee shop. It is true that CR has its share of ctitics. Modern society encourages active fear of, rage against, and opposition to Christianity. Davjohn (talk) 21:33, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
Support speedy deletion - Unencyclopedic, promotional. Reads like a Sunday service hand out. Jschnur (talk) 01:07, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
First Light 's recent revisions have removed my disquiet with this article. It is now encyclopaedic and appropriate in length given its notability. Jschnur (talk) 22:59, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Lots of promotional material removed. Let's keep this article encyclopedic. – S. Rich (talk) 20:23, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
Format
editTwelve-step programs have informal, open-share meetings which usually last about an hour. CRs are 3 - 4 hours including has a dinner, a worship/teaching or testamony (speaker) meeting, a structured discussion group based on the teaching/testamony followed by a coffee shop. Davjohn (talk) 21:33, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
I excerpted the following from the discussion above, because it points out the format of CR meetings, which isn't mentioned in this article. This should be included. Sondra.kinsey (talk) 01:02, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
FYI
editJohn Baker is deceased. His son Johnny Baker has more or less taken his place as the public face of CR. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 22:07, 11 November 2024 (UTC)