Talk:Chaédria LaBouvier

Crazy

This woman is a nut-case and a bully. Having slandered the (unimpeachably liberal) Guggenheim she then turned on the (unimpeachably liberal) Atlantic Magazine for not covering stories about her, and then on the individual journalist who approached her for interview to give her side of the story. She used her high profile on social media to attempt to recruit others to her bullying campaign against the journalist in question. I am not show how or if the article should be amended to represent this but at least some doubt should be given on the validity of her complaints. As it currently stands, the article implies that the Guggenheim realized the error of its ways and she was vid=ndicated. Bacon Man (talk) 08:47, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

The Atlantic has now published an article on the matter. It gives quite a different view than this Wikipedia article:

Helen Lewis, The Guggenheim's Scapegoat, https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/11/guggenheim-racism-controversy-curator-nancy-spector/671529/

It includes abusive quotes by LaBouvier against the journalist Lewis, and signs off with a Jenny Holzer chestnut. 2001:171B:2274:7C21:5D13:E828:159A:19AA (talk) 14:11, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Reads like an advertisement

This article sounds like an advertisement for the subject, rather then being neutral. This is typically how she describes herself:

"Chaédria LaBouvier is a writer, curator and Basquiat scholar. She was a contributing writer for Elle, and has been published in Refinery 29, New York Magazine, Allure, Vice, and others. She is the first Black curator, first Black woman and the first curator of Cuban descent to organize a show for the Guggenheim Museum. She holds an MFA in Screenwriting from UCLA’s Film School and has served as a consultant and script doctor in television."

I think writer is accurate, but Journalist is not. For instance, she's described by Elle as:

https://www.elle.com/author/5176/chaedria-laBouvier/

Elle: Chaédria is a culture and politics writer that stans for Black Lives Matter and hair products. She lives out of a suitcase. No, really.

I would describe as her as an Activist and a Writer. I'm not removing curator though I disagree with it - that's not an occupation, she has no training in it, she was invited once to guest curate and I think it's important that the wikipedia article reflect that. Denaar (talk) 12:35, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Though many sources describe her as "the first black curator" - the recent article in the Atlantic points out she wasn't the first black curator. As far as I know, she was the first Black Woman to curate a show there.

"Bouvier later said on Twitter she was unhappy that the Guggenheim described her only as the “first Black solo curator,” on the technical grounds that the Nigerian curator Okwui Enwezor had been involved in organizing a show in 1996. (The Guggenheim said that LaBouvier was never described this way in publicity materials; instead, she was called a “guest curator.”)"

A "Curator" is usually someone hired full time by the museum, a guest curator is a one-time curator for one show. So she wasn't hired as a curator, she was hired to help curate one show - it's a subtle but important distinction.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/11/guggenheim-racism-controversy-curator-nancy-spector/671529/

Denaar (talk) 12:42, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Updates Needed

This article does not reflect the controversy surrounding this subject’s behavior, nor her habitual aggression and self-aggrandizement. 2605:6DC0:E000:A82:3581:8D25:EFEE:AB32 (talk) 13:38, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

What's her significance?

This person is of no importance in any way. She does not deserve a Wikipedia mention. Delete this nutjob! 2601:485:4200:792:7192:A5DC:D1D8:621A (talk) 05:44, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Doxxing Breakdown

Think we need to add in the recent breakdown she has had on Twitter? She has spent four days non-stop tweeting abuse at people including doxxing people's place of work after some spat with a stranger over Miami Vice. It's literally how I first heard of her, plus hundreds of thousands of others, much more so than curating a show. 2001:BB6:478E:B900:DF24:2E19:A6C7:F22A (talk) 08:05, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

There have been multiple updates added to this page with valid citations that are repeatedly removed for no reason. I suspect the subject of this page is using her Wikipedia account to remove anything about the Miami Vice debacle. 2600:6C8C:7840:20:490A:5351:1226:6C3A (talk) 21:07, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Much as I find her Twitter outburst hilarious and embarrassing, I don't think Twitter drama is really noteworthy, especially when it involves such a marginal figure. Chrismamo1 (talk) 15:13, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Deleting valid citations

Facts about the subject of this page are repeatedly being deleted for no reason, despite having valid sources cited from The Atlantic Article about Chaédria LaBouvier. 2600:6C8C:7840:20:490A:5351:1226:6C3A (talk) 21:00, 9 July 2024 (UTC)