Talk:Chairman Mao badge

Image copyright status?

Great article, very interesting to read. I wonder whether there is also one about the recent similar American phenomenon, flag pin? Apparently not. Anyway, what's the copyright status of the badge images? Are the badges in the public domain as Chinese government works? If yes, they should be so labeled on Commons.  Sandstein  21:30, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

The images are my own photographs of badges in my own collection. I do not believe that the badges themselves are copyrightable by whoever produced them. BabelStone (talk) 21:36, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, no, these badges are (in my lawyer's opinion) likely to pass the threshold of originality for works of art in most relevant jurisdictions, and are as such covered by copyright. Your photos of them are derivative works. You'll need to make sure to check their licensing status, or the photos may eventually be deleted from Commons.  Sandstein  21:46, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

I really do not think that you are right (my photographs of mass-produced objects in my ownership -- I am certain that I rather than any now defunct Chinese badge factory have copyright on the images), but please discuss on Commons if you wish. BabelStone (talk) 22:03, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Try Lapel pin. BabelStone (talk) 21:38, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!  Sandstein  21:46, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

According to the Copyright Law of the People's Republic of China (2001):

"the term "works" includes works of literature, art, natural science, social science, engineering technology and the like which are expressed in the following forms:

(1) written works;

(2) oral works;

(3) musical, dramatic, quyi', choreographic and acrobatic works;

(4) works of fine art and architecture;

(5) photographic works;

(6) cinematographic works and works created by virtue of an analogous method of film production;

(7) drawings of engineering designs, and product designs; maps, sketches and other graphic works and model works;

(8) computer software;

(9) other works as provided for in laws and administrative regulations."

I am confident the mass produced badges do not fall into any of the above categories (works of fine art and architecture must refer to individual, unique pieces of art and architecure, and not objects manufactured in their millions in factories), and are therefore not covered by Chinese copyright law. BabelStone (talk) 13:43, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

I think you're mistaken. The copyright status of a drawing is not dependent on its artistic merits or whether it serves as a template for a mass-produced badge, or whether you own such a badge. For instance, buying a mass-produced newspaper with a photo in it does not make you the copyright owner of that photo or give you any rights to further distribute or use that photograph; these rights remain with the original photographer or the newspaper. I'll have to open a deletion discussion at Commons because the images, at least as they are currently labeled, violate the copyright of the creators of the badges.  Sandstein  06:13, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has now been taken to Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Mao_Badge_12.jpg. I recommend any editor who is interested in this topic to participate in the debate there. BabelStone (talk) 11:21, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

If a photograph of the Eiffel Tower or Mona Lisa is eligible for Commons, surely a photo of a bit of pressed aluminium is as well. -- Evertype·✆ 22:07, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Please add a link

There's this article in Chinese (on Chinese WIkipedia).

http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%AF%9B%E4%B8%BB%E5%B8%AD%E5%83%8F%E7%AB%A0

Please add it to the Languages menu... I don't know how.

Thank you.

--96.21.156.53 (talk) 23:24, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Done, thanks. BabelStone (talk) 00:28, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

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the cute girl picture with the Mal badge

was taken by Ali atkins, the official photographer for Richard Nixon on his trip to China 2601:642:4C04:738E:C1E3:C7EC:5808:9689 (talk) 20:30, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

@2601:642:4C04:738E:C1E3:C7EC:5808:9689 should be credited to the National Archives 2601:642:4C04:738E:C1E3:C7EC:5808:9689 (talk) 20:31, 8 July 2023 (UTC)