Talk:Chapel-en-le-Frith

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Dave.Dunford in topic Edits by Hcp72*
Former good article nomineeChapel-en-le-Frith was a Geography and places good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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February 5, 2011Good article nomineeNot listed

French connection?

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Name translates in French as Chapel in the Frith. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.22.168.217 (talkcontribs) 18:19, 6 August 2009

See also derivation 3 in Wiktionary. THe Frith referred to would be the Forest of the High Peak (or Pecsaetan) as with Duffield Frith a generally wooded area usually belonging to a member of Norman nobility and subject to Forest law Chevin (talk) 07:55, 6 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
However, the word "frith" (in any of its meanings) is definitely not derived from French. (There may be a derivation the other way round - "forêt" may perhaps ultimately come from "frith", or not.) So rather than being French, the name is a mix: first an English word of French origin, then two truly French words, and finally an English word of Germanic origin without a hint of French influence. TooManyFingers (talk) 07:50, 22 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Suggestions

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  • Neolithic and Bronze Age remains nearby such as a tumulus on Eldon Hill
  • Iron age Castle Naze?
  • Pecsaetan. Brigantes
  • Roman Batham Gate?
  • Domesday Book?
  • Forest Courts for Longendale Ward
  • Foresters established the chapel about 1225
  • In the centre of the forest ward of Campana.
  • At crossroads of Roman road between Buxton and Melandra and an ancient track between Mam Tor and the west.
  • Date market established 1254? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.122.233.100 (talk) 14:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

Bank Hall, Chapel-en-le-Frith

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Is there any history on the house that can be put into this page? its always good to include the mansion house to a village or town in the history section as it usually employed many locals and developed the settlement... Bankhallbretherton (talk) 21:55, 10 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

According to this website (see "Halls in the Hills"), Bank Hall was just one of several halls in the district. They (collectively) might be worth a mention here but I'm not sure Bank Hall on its own warrants a great deal of coverage in this general article. I'm a local with an interest in the history of the area and I must admit I'd never heard of it. Dave.Dunford (talk) 09:02, 11 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
Cheers for that, I am involved with Bank Hall and have often come accross photos and info on the "Bank Hall" at Chapel-en-le-Frith, I have never been to the place but just wondered of it was worth a mention of the local mansion houses and i could maybe try and provide some info if i get it together. But i will leave it to the people that know the area best as i dont believe in editing pages i dont know alot about or the facts... something that irritates me is when people edit pages that i know well and they dont actually know what they are talking about... so i will leave it to you! :)

If i can help if you decide to add anything regarding the houses then give me a shout as i love looking into country houses history Bankhallbretherton (talk) 01:09, 12 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

Local AfD

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Please comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/B5470 road. Rcsprinter123 (relate) 22:32, 22 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

Edits by Hcp72*

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@Hcp72: I'm uneasy about your edits, though they're obviously made in good faith. Issues:

  • None of them are cited.
  • Some of them are arguable – what's the evidence that Chapel en le Frith is "the first settlement of the Peak District"? What about Lismore Fields in Buxton, for example?
  • The lead section now goes off on a rambling discursion about the etymology of the Peak District, which is irrelevant to the subject of the article and longer than the rest of the lead.

I'm tempted to revert, as on the whole I don't feel the article is improved by these changes. though some of it is worth keeping. Thoughts? Dave.Dunford (talk) 21:48, 4 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

I'd forgotten I'd made the above comment, but on re-reading the lead I had exactly the same reaction. I've removed the discursive material. The derivation of "Capital of the Peak" seems to vary too among sources, so I've made it more non-committal. Dave.Dunford (talk) 10:35, 15 March 2022 (UTC)Reply