Talk:Chapter 9: The Marshal
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John Leguizamo
editI have a doubt. Did John Leguizamo actually play the motion capture of the alien or did he only voice the character? I'm asking because Legacy Special Effects supervisor John Rosengrant is credited as performance artist for the characters but maybe he only handled the mechanics of the head and Leguizamo was actually under the mask? We need to find this out.--TheVampire (talk) 01:35, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- Wookiepedia agrees with my understanding of the credits, as they also cite them to support the statement: "He was voiced by John Leguizamo and portrayed in costume by John Rosengrant."--TheVampire (talk) 01:58, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
Boba Fett
editTheVampire answered their own question but that was my understanding too, voice only. (Leguizamo joked that it was him which may have confused some people but it was only his voice.)
TheVampire, could you post your sources for Boba Fett please. You mentioned in an edit summary that his agency confirmed it. I don't doubt it but it would be helpful to be able to direct certain people who do doubt to the Talk page. -- 109.76.134.169 (talk) 00:45, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
- here you go. Next time, please, open a new section to discuss a new topic.--TheVampire (talk) 08:59, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks. Reformatted as separate subsection. It is strange when people mention that a source exists instead of just providing it (and it happens a lot), but hopefully now the pedantic people will stop messing with the article. -- 109.76.151.233 (talk) 01:24, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
- Source no. 3 already reports Boba Fett so we don't need another source. The agency source has been around for a while on the main page, so that's why I didn't copy it here 'cause the new source was already reporting everything we needed. Anyway, we'll see what the series does, but the source is reliable for now.--TheVampire (talk) 14:31, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
- An unreliable source and not officially confirmed. This is the same reason as to why Boba Fett is not listed at The Mandalorian (season 2), which you can read the note for at The Mandalorian (season 2)#Notes. Please gain a firm consensus to list the character as such. -- /Alex/21 01:36, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- You point to The Mandalorian (season 2)#Notes which has a reference from The Hollywood Reporter which clearly says it is Boba Fett! We have a reliable source but you choose to ignore it. Wiki Truth.
- If you're going to be pedantic then at least do it properly and consistently, your edit only changed the plot section but failed to change the Infobox which also says Temuera Morrison as Boba Fett.
- Or don't delete anything and restore the obvious statement that the very reliable Hollywood Reporter supports. -- 109.78.196.250 (talk) 01:53, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- Has it been confirmed, or is it just a number of random sources that have come to their own conclusion? Also, Hollywood Reporter clearly states "Sources say Morrison will play Boba Fett". There is nothing official about that. Thanks for the heads up about the related content, I've copied the note and sources from the Season 2 article. -- /Alex/21 02:17, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- The character is not yet confirmed to be Boba Fett. The changes Alex made to include the note as we are doing at the season 2 article are correct for now. Once the character is revealed/confirmed, we can readjust here. But it would still need to be noted that in this episode, it was not known who the character was. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:35, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- Has it been confirmed, or is it just a number of random sources that have come to their own conclusion? Also, Hollywood Reporter clearly states "Sources say Morrison will play Boba Fett". There is nothing official about that. Thanks for the heads up about the related content, I've copied the note and sources from the Season 2 article. -- /Alex/21 02:17, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- An unreliable source and not officially confirmed. This is the same reason as to why Boba Fett is not listed at The Mandalorian (season 2), which you can read the note for at The Mandalorian (season 2)#Notes. Please gain a firm consensus to list the character as such. -- /Alex/21 01:36, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- Source no. 3 already reports Boba Fett so we don't need another source. The agency source has been around for a while on the main page, so that's why I didn't copy it here 'cause the new source was already reporting everything we needed. Anyway, we'll see what the series does, but the source is reliable for now.--TheVampire (talk) 14:31, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks. Reformatted as separate subsection. It is strange when people mention that a source exists instead of just providing it (and it happens a lot), but hopefully now the pedantic people will stop messing with the article. -- 109.76.151.233 (talk) 01:24, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
Metacritic
editIt may have been a mistake to include Metacritic in this article (my bad). As of November 7, Metacritic lists 14 reviews and gives season 2 a score of 76%, but the problem is that it is not an episode score, they say that score represents Season 2 even though we know those 14 reviews are all only reviews of Chapter 9, the first episode of Season 2. (Disney+ did not provide preview episodes to critics.) So even though the fact is that score only really represents the first episode, maybe we shouldn't ignore the fact that Metacritic says that score represents season 2. WP:NOTTRUTH
It might be necessary to remove the Metacritic score entirely. I leave it to other editors to make that decision. If editors decide to keep the Metacritic score, then it should probably be kept as it is now, based only on those 14 reviews of the first episode. -- 109.76.142.249 (talk) 13:46, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
- It should probably stay, but I am not also set on either side. Cardei012597 (talk) 17:19, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
- I gave it some thought and it is too confusing and too inconsistent to leave it as is for this episode but not have it for others, so I've reluctantly removed it.
- I have also removed the Metacritic score from all the previous episode articles because Metacritic only provides a score for season 1 as a whole, and a score for season 2. (Note: The episode scores Metacritic does sometimes provide are based only on user votes, which are not allowed because they are WP:USERGENERATED and not reliable.) -- 109.79.169.83 (talk) 15:57, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
Article's notability
editThere is currently a discussion regarding this article's (and the other episode article's) notability, to redirect them back to the season article. You can find that discussion here: Talk:The Mandalorian#Episodes articles. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 22:26, 20 November 2020 (UTC)