Talk:Chardak

Halid Bešlić - Čardak

Ja se napio i slušam Halida i Čardak i reko: "haj evo da googlam "čardak" baš da vidim kaj on to melje i onda na hrv. wiki vidim da je čardak najviše u Hrvatskoj. Zatim se ja prebacim na englesku wiki i piše da je "chardak" bugarski/srpski/kajgod??? ima neko izvor da potvrdi??

Discrepancies & Word Origin

I have noticed that the english and croatian translations do not match in regards to the origins of the word as well as it's popularity/relevance within a specific balkan nation. Is there anyone who can confirm the nationality of the word? Alternatively, spread the truth about the mixed nature of the words origins?? 2A05:4F46:323:2B00:E0C9:6695:5EE3:182F (talk) 22:18, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

According to the Chartaque page, the word is of Ottoman Turkish origin, and before that, of Persian origin. Ottoman Turkish: چارطاق, from Persian: چهارتاق chahartaq, literally "having four arches"; in German: Tschartake, in Turkish: Çardak. See notes below. --SlightlyStrangeQuark (talk) 18:24, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Multiple meanings, and the Chartaque page

Of the linked articles in various languages, at the moment of writing the most extensive ones are those in Serbian, Macedonian, and Bulgarian. There seem to be at least 5 or 6 different meanings of the term, spread out amongst various language-specific articles.

The meanings I've been able to gather, source article in [brackets]:

• A type of watchtower used by the Ottoman Empire [Serbian]
• A type of a traditional guest house in Central Serbia [Serbian]
• A name for a type of a wooden corncrib used in Western Vojvodina (Serbia), and Eastern Croatia (bordering regions). [Serbian]
• A type of a traditional wooden house in Croatia that used to be a symbol of wealth [Croatian]
• "a room characteristic of a traditional Macedonian house, which is a multi-purpose semi-open space that connects the rest of the spaces" [Macedonian]
• (this might be the same as the previous one) An architectural element characteristic of traditional houses in Bulgaria, North Macedonia and in Serbia - a projection that is open to the external environment, usually on an upper floor; a balcony of sorts [Bulgarian]

Originally, this term designated a type of a watchtower that was used at the borders of the Ottoman Empire (only the Serbian-language version has a section dedicated to this meaning so far). However, there is already a good English-language article on this under Chartaque - the History section seems to be largely in line with what's written in the Serbian-language version, but the Construction section provides new information. --SlightlyStrangeQuark (talk) 18:24, 10 September 2023 (UTC)