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Erroneous Dates
editI have a couple of quibbles with this article on Sir Charles. The first one is that the railway was closed in 1979, not 1980, as is mentioned in the article on the Fremantle Railway. It was certainly shut before the 1980 election (early 1980) with Ron Davies the ALP Leader saying that "an ALP Government would put the trains back" in election commercials, and promising gradual electrification of the whole system. The Friends of the Railways were collecting signatures in 1978 and 1979 to stop the closure and presenting the then largest petition in WA history (which Court ignored), and were largely invisible in the early 1980's. The issue was still there, with Ray O'Connor talking about "rail buses" in 1982, but it wasn't quite as described in the article. The railway issue was not one that was extensively campagined on in 1983, which was largely over the level of unemployment and the state of the economy, but it was ALP Policy to restore the service, which they ultmately did roughly 6 months after forming government.
I'm not so sure about the Nookanbah dispute, so cannot comment on that timeline.
I think the article should make some further comment upon his overwhelming dominating presence in politics during his Premiership, and his dominating presence in his own party. It could be argued the WA Liberals still haven't "gotten over" him and his departure has left them rootless. His autocratic nature has been hinted at by reference to the Fremantle Railway (but ignoring the petition isn't mentioned), Nookanbah, and the Tresillian Centre, but his dominance of the politics of the period (and the authoritarian nature of his rule) is not emphasised enough. For example, his dominance led to the split in the WA Country Party, with Hendy Cowan and a couple of others forming the breakaway WA Nationals. His WA parochialism was generally backed by the bulk of the population, even those would couldn't stand him. I suppose I'm waffling a bit, but some mention of his dominance with repect to such things as it being responsible for the formation of the breakaway nationals etc should be mentioned, and the railway part should be corrected to the right dates, and mention that he so single minded he ignored the largest petition in WA up to that time, and got away with it at the subsequent election. It wasn't just the NW Aboriginals he ignored. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.39.162.130 (talk) 14:57, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
Was he really an Old Haleian?
editThe Hale School article from which I derived the recently created List of Old Haleians article claimed, and still claims, that Sir Charles Court attended Hale School. However, the Charles Court article says that he attended Perth Boys School. Although the Charles Court article then goes on to claim that Perth Boys School is now Hale School, that is not the case (Hale School was located in The Cloisters, Perth, and later in West Perth, and is now in Wembley Downs; the now-defunct Perth Boys School was located in the Old Perth Boys School building, and later in the now Perth Institute of Contemporary Arts building). It therefore appears that the Hale School and List of Old Haleians articles, and this article, will need to be changed once a reliable source can be found. Bahnfrend (talk) 04:32, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
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WAY 79
editThe article says:
Court was premier at the time of the state's 150th anniversary celebrations in 1979—commonly known as WAY '79, as well as being involved in planning and specific projects during the celebrations.[1]
- ^ "COSSACK CELEBRATIONS FOR WAY '79". Hamersley News. Vol. XII, , no. 8. Western Australia. 26 April 1979. p. 16. Retrieved 22 January 2017 – via National Library of Australia.
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The article is included in Category: WAY 79 apparently on the strength of that reference. [1][2]
However the reference mentions one single event that he officiated at as Premier. There's no mention of him planning anything, or any indication that he had anything to with WAY 79 other than happening to be Premier at the time. I think we need a better reference for "planning ... projects during the celebrations" and inclusion in the category. For the category, WAY 79 does not appear to be a defining characteristic of Charles Court. Mitch Ames (talk) 08:07, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
- In the absence of any response and/or other references, I've fixed the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mitch Ames (talk • contribs) 13:49, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- not fixed, simply reverted - it was his department that he had particular interest and influence with in a range of events and aspects of gaining Prince Charles' visit as well WAY 79. 150th Anniversary Board; Drake-Brockman, Slade (1980), Western Australia, 1829-1979 : report on the celebrations to the Parliament of Western Australia, s.n, retrieved 5 February 2017
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: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link) JarrahTree 14:32, 4 February 2017 (UTC)- So write something to that effect in the article, and add the appropriate reference (which I don't have, so I can't do it myself).
- Even so, I still think that WAY 79 does not appear to be a defining characteristic of Charles Court, so this article ought not be in that category. As always, if you still disagree, we can ask for some other editors' opinions. Mitch Ames (talk) 09:28, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- No one ever seems to turn up Mitch. The Charles Court Biography is a day or two away, when I get my hands on it I will see what the biographer says... JarrahTree 10:06, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- not fixed, simply reverted - it was his department that he had particular interest and influence with in a range of events and aspects of gaining Prince Charles' visit as well WAY 79. 150th Anniversary Board; Drake-Brockman, Slade (1980), Western Australia, 1829-1979 : report on the celebrations to the Parliament of Western Australia, s.n, retrieved 5 February 2017
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