Talk:Charles J. O'Byrne

Second in command?

Surely in the official sense the Lt. Gov is second in command - in fact, what does "second in command" mean in this context? – ukexpat (talk) 19:38, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

In the sense that the White House Chief of Staff is the "second in command" to the President in terms of Advisors, etc. Historically, the Secretary to the Governor is the most powerful position in Albany, wielding much more actual authority then the Lieutenant Governor. I will be expanding on that, I'm still getting most of the bio typed off offline. Check back in a few hours and let me know what you think and how it should be edited. MrPrada (talk) 19:42, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

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Copyedited by ukexpat (talk), a member of the Guild of Copy Editors, on 19:06, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

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This article is in decent shape, but it needs more work before it becomes a Good Article.

1. Is it well written?

   A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

   Well, I've done some research and I couldn't find a source for his B-Day and stuff, so I'm not going to make that a major issue to the review. But, if a source can be found, please add it. In the lead, Ref. 1 needs to be added after David Paterson, as its describing what he does or did. Same section, "He is openly gay", can that be re-worded, as it sorta sounds strange. Same section, please add a link to "Colombia Spectator". Same part, "During college, he took a summer job in the New Jersey Attorney General's office, and at 22, became acting superintendent of elections and acting commissioner of registration in Monmouth County", this sentence should be split and 22 should be written as twenty-two. Again, "and officiated at the marriage of John F. Kennedy Jr. and Carolyn Bessette in 1996", shouldn't "the" be removed? New section - Priesthood, "During his studies in Cambridge, he acted as Harvard Law School's chaplain, and worked as a teaching fellow at Harvard University with Robert Coles, a Pulitzer-prize winning author", it would be best to re-word the sentence to ---> "During his studies in Cambridge, he acted as Harvard Law School's chaplain, and worked as a teaching fellow at Harvard University with Pulitzer-prize winning author, Robert Coles". Article in Playboy magazine, is "boyologist" the meaning to "priests who held an unnatural interest in young male parishioners", if so, then please add a comma before the reference. Throughout the article, there tends to be a lot of "he", try to even out he and O'Byrne. In the Political career, there are two "In", can one be removed?

   B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

2. Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?

   A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

   B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):

   C. It contains no original research:

   D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

   B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):

4. Is it neutral?

   It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:

   "Considered a confidant to the Kennedy family", needs to be re-written as it sounds like POV.

5. Is it stable?

   It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:

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   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:

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   Pass or Fail:

   If the statements above can be answered, I will pass the article. Good luck with improving this article! Also, contact me if the above statements are answered.

--  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:26, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

I've decided to fail the article, since its a week since the GA review. If the statements above can be addressed, then the article may be renominated for GA. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:05, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

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