Talk:Charleston Open

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There is a long, ongoing discussion at WP:Tennis about the tournament tables found in tennis articles on English-language Wikipedia (e.g., this type of table). The discussion is about whether the "official sponsored name" of a tournament - such as Pacific Life Open - or another tournament name without the sponsor - such as Indian Wells Masters - must be used in those articles. Please join the discussion here. Thanks. Tennis expert (talk) 08:52, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Charleston Open: common non-sponsored name

Tennis project decided long ago to name tournaments by their non-sponsored common names. This was because sponsors change all the time. Take this event. Their has been one and only one winner of the Volvo Car Open; Sloane Stephens in 2016. That's it! There have been many winners of the Family Circle Cup. Of course it was the Family Circle Cup Hilton Head, Family Circle Cup Amelia Island, Family Circle Cup Charleston. This tournament has actually moved a bunch. One thing it does have is that it's been at Charleston since 2001 and is often called the Charleston Open, simply Charleston, or even WTA Charleston. It was also often called simply Hilton Head when it was held there. Since we go by non-sponsored names, and everyone has played the Charleston Open since 2001, and only one year has had the Volvo Car Open, Charleston Open seems the best choice for title and lead as long as we mention who it is currently sponsored by. Fyunck(click) (talk) 05:00, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

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Charleston Open or WTA Charleston?

Fyunck, virtually no one uses this "Charleston Open" designation (rudimentary google search results count of "Charleston Open" is negligible (less than a handful) in comparison to the other name you mentioned: "WTA Charleston", that one goes into hundreds of thousands. Also "open" is feels kinda disconnected to the fact that this tourament was titled "Cup" for much longer period. So why not rename it "WTA Charleston? (especially also since the winner list includes the cup era and even the pre-charleston era) --Loginnigol 15:20, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

This query is in response to my post at "Charleston Open: common non-sponsored name" from two years ago, so I moved it to the talk page bottom for current conversations. As I said, it's title could be any of a few, just not a fluctuating sponsored name like Volvo. I wouldn't say Charleston Open is negligible when we have places like Reuters, and the BBC, and Vavel International, or FoxSports using the term. I'm not saying it's perfect, but when I see "WTA Charleston" in press articles it feels that in the context written it is saying more like "In WTA news at Charleston..." rather than a tournament name. Huge tennis magazine L'Equipe simply calls it "tournoi de Charleston." That's simple and to the point... Charleston tournament... which we usually handle in English as Charleston Open. If others think that WTA Charleston is better than Charleston Open in encompassing the events history, I certainly won't stand in the way.

We do have WTA Charleston redirecting to this article in case someone looks up that article title. One thing about the fact that we see WTA Charleston in google searches more often. It is because so many almanac type listings do it that way for all ATP and WTA tournaments. Common listings such as done at flashscores list all their events that way: WTA Rome, ATP Madrid, WTA Acapulco, WTA Eastbourne, etc. If we use "WTA Charleston" per google frequency it's possible that it becomes a slippery slope for all our tournament titles to be changed to WTA:city and ATP:city. I'm just saying let's make sure this is what we want to do for this particular tournament before changing things. You are correct about the cup item. I kinda wish press sources would use "Charleston Cup" instead of what we see, but they don't. Anyone else have some thoughts on what would be best here? Fyunck(click) (talk) 19:29, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

2022 Charleston ioen

How can Women's Tennis allow participants from Russua and Belarus to compete this year when Russia is killing civilians in Ukraine? 104.50.233.238 (talk) 23:45, 1 March 2022 (UTC)