Talk:Chase Utley

Home Run Derby "incident"

None of the sources provided for this are reliable, they are all fan comments or blogs. It's also not particularly notable. I've removed it. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 18:26, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Chase Ultey cursed on live TV at the all- star game in response to be being booed and everyone knows it. google it and there's plenty of articles to link. MLB's trying to cover it up, but he should be penalized. 129.49.26.157 (talk)

• Note from Killervogel5: This comment was left on my autograph page. I've moved it here, since this is the proper location for discussion.

Reliable sources were not being provided, so it was removed. In addition, it may be your opinion that MLB should levy a fine, but per WP:NOR, opinions are not encyclopedic and therefore have no place here. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 23:28, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

April 2009 pic

I came across this photo licensed under CC if someone wants to use it. APK straight up now tell me 20:28, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

World Series Parade Incident

I don't see how anything I added is controversial. The 2008 incident helps to show how the crowd along with his team mates went wild with approval when he said it, which adds value to the article. I can add a source citing this exactly as I wrote it. The 2009 post season entry also adds value by describing Utley's appearance during the World Series, and sources can verify this along with he NY press poking fun at it. If I neglected to properly source my edits I will gladly go back to the tutorial and do the edits correctly, but as far as subject matter I don't see how this material does not have a place in the Chase Utley article. BiGg3st iTaLiAn0 (talk) 14:56, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

It does not have a place because it's trivial, non-encyclopedic information. If you do re-insert it, it will be removed again. See WP:INDISCRIMINATE for the relevant policy. — KV5 • Talk • 15:11, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

It's trivial according you, and I respect your opinion. However, is their a third party that can play the role of arbitrator because I do not see how edits, that help to explain Chase Utley and events that he was involved, are "trivial, non-encyclopedic." I can see how you can argue that the edit about his hair is trivial (I personally don't see it as trivial), but the sentence about Werth's reaction definitely adds value to the piece about what he said during the World Series celebration. How is my sentence about his teammate's (Werth) reaction any less relevant then the next line about the crowds reaction. BiGg3st iTaLiAn0 (talk) 18:46, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

First, it's not referenced. Second, it's not important in the context of an encyclopedia (which is what this is). Third, it's inappropriate to re-insert the information while there's an ongoing discussion about its relevance, so I'm asking you to revert your last re-addition until we come to an agreement. As to your concern about the degree of relevance: honestly, neither of those sentences add anything. They should both be removed. There's no need to involve a third-party mediator right now, as this isn't any sort of big deal; however, if you see the need, you can go to WP:3O to ask. — KV5 • Talk • 18:58, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough, I will go get a source to cite my latest edit. I will not put back in the information about his slicked back hair because I can see how this is not important (or maybe you're jealous you don't have hair like him haha, jk) If you feel my edit about Werth jumping up is not important and you see the need to delete it please consult a third party mediator. However, considering the line about the crowd's reaction, I do think adding something about how the fellow players reacted is important and gives the readers a better understanding of how his comments were received. I don't see how a sentence about the fans reaction is any more relevant then the team mates reaction. Thus, if my edit is "not important in the context of an encyclopedia" then neither is the sentence about the crowd. Thank you. BiGg3st iTaLiAn0 (talk) 19:13, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Which is exactly what I just said above. Glad we're in agreement. I'll remove both sentences. — KV5 • Talk • 19:15, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

You can remove both sentences, but I feel as would many other people that the reaction to his comments add value to the article. Without them all that you have is that Chase said "World Fucking Champions" and the reader has no clue how people reacted to this. Some may come away thinking he was booed and will change how they think Philly fans look at Chase. When in reality they, along with his team mates, love him. Where would we go to have a 3rd party decide if these two sentences are important and add value to this article. BiGg3st iTaLiAn0 (talk) 19:20, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Like I said before: WP:3O. — KV5 • Talk • 19:30, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Third opinion: We're talking about the text removed in this edit, right? If so, then I agree with KV5; the text is trivial and unnecessary. I find it more fancrufty than anything else, really. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 19:48, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Correct. — KV5 • Talk • 20:01, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Legacy

This article is going to be useful someday to populate a legacy section. Not today. Go Phightins! 01:50, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

• And here is an article on his HOF chances. Go Phightins! 16:33, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

His late slide in game 2 of the 2015 NLDS against the Mets, will be written as illegal into the rulebooks starting with the 2016 season, in what is being referenced by analysts and commentators going forward as the Chase Utley rule.

It should not be removed that he has been criticized as a dirty player, especially if we are putting the "he's such a good guy" word salad in the intro. Seems one sided. He isn't like Aaron Judge, who hasn't been criticized persona wise ever.

Proper weight

It's clear that his slide is the most notable aspect of his 2015 season and also the most controversial. In addition, significant press coverage of his reputation for rough play has surfaced from numerous reliable sources and is well cited. These should not be whitewashed out. The Dissident Aggressor 20:54, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

The Dodgers section is already fairly small... adding a separate subtitle is not necessary and adds undue weight to a situation that is still developing. The way you wrote it had too much undue weight on various New York media reports which are entirely opinion articles. Care should also be taken when updating current events.. always should err on the side of waiting till events have played out a bit more for proper context. Spanneraol (talk) 20:58, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

I agree with Spanneraol. Here in Philly, there was much more media coverage of his trade to the Dodgers than his postseason exploits. In New York, it's the other way around. Let's not let one incident overwhelm the article. --Coemgenus (talk) 22:03, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

His reputation as reported in numerous national news sources is not even covered in the article at this point. It's been whitewashed. The Dissident Aggressor 18:47, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

we absolutely must include labeling him as dirty. It's well documented. It's a blatant omission when you tout how great of a leader he is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.74.40.199 (talk) 13:43, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

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2017 signing official

... per this et al. —ATS 🖖 talk 19:48, 18 February 2017 (UTC)