Talk:Chiang Wei-kuo
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Fascist?
editPlease cite at least one source, and NO, being a student in Germany in a certain year is not adequate evidence. DOR (ex-HK) (talk) 17:11, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'll do you one better - he voluntarily served in the Nazi Wehrmacht. Docktuh (talk) 21:20, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Cite your source on that “voluntarily” bit — as opposed to, say being told by his father to go study with the one major power that the Chiang family wasn’t already close to (CKS studied in Japan, CCK in the USSR, and Soong Mei-Ling in the USA), and you’ll break new scholarly ground. Then, publish your masterpiece, and if enough people think it is reliable, we can include it here.DOR (ex-HK) (talk) 08:54, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- OK even if "voluntary" is not the case, what else do you call an anti-communist Chinese collaborator with Nazi Germany who served in the Wehrmacht for three years and wasn't forced to at gunpoint? Docktuh (talk) 00:09, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- The same thing every book about the man calls him: a student. DOR (ex-HK) (talk) 17:41, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- In Taiwan he was a well known supporter of the fascist KMT regime who was strongly opposed to liberalization and democracy. Not sure we really need to explicitly say that though, almost all of the KMT officers of that generation were fascists (they had to be, non-fascists were purged). Horse Eye's Back (talk) 17:50, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- The same thing every book about the man calls him: a student. DOR (ex-HK) (talk) 17:41, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- OK even if "voluntary" is not the case, what else do you call an anti-communist Chinese collaborator with Nazi Germany who served in the Wehrmacht for three years and wasn't forced to at gunpoint? Docktuh (talk) 00:09, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- Cite your source on that “voluntarily” bit — as opposed to, say being told by his father to go study with the one major power that the Chiang family wasn’t already close to (CKS studied in Japan, CCK in the USSR, and Soong Mei-Ling in the USA), and you’ll break new scholarly ground. Then, publish your masterpiece, and if enough people think it is reliable, we can include it here.DOR (ex-HK) (talk) 08:54, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
the coveted Gebirgsjäger Edelweiss sleeve insignia
editsee https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WW2_German_Army_%28Wehrmacht%29_uniform_of_doctor_%28Stabsartz%29,_Gebirgsj%C3%A4ger_Edelweiss_emblem_on_sleeve._Bergm%C3%BCtze_%28ski_cap%29_Lofoten_krigsminnemuseum_Norway_2019-05-08_DSC00099.jpg 194.207.86.26 (talk) 13:44, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
“Never held any authority..”
editAfter the 1964 “coup” attempt, the article states
“Chiang Wei-kuo was in the penalty box and never held any authority in the military.
From 1964 onwards, Chiang Wei-kuo made preparations in establishing a school dedicated to teaching warfare strategy; such a school was established in 1969. In 1975, Chiang Wei-kuo was further promoted to the position of general, and served as president of the Armed Forces University. In 1980, Chiang served as joint logistics commander in chief; then in 1986, he retired from the army and became National Security Council Secretary-General.”
The second paragraph would seem to contradict the first, no? MWFwiki (talk) 02:10, 30 May 2024 (UTC)