Talk:Chim Chim Cher-ee

First break out of Two breaks

I think Mrs. Banks should've said; "Oh, Ellen, See who that is right away! I'm dreadfully late!" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.84.112.215 (talk) 17:06, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

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Vaylu

In an interview in 2014 with Lydia Hutchinson, this is what the Shermans said about Chim-chim-che-ree

From the same movie, what about “Chim Chim Cher-ee”?

Bob: Well, one day, Don Dagrati, this marvelous writer and artist, had a little 8 x 10 sketch in charcoal, a little chimney sweep with his brooms over his shoulder and he was whistling with his cheeks puffed out. And Dick and I looked at each other and said, “That’s a song.” But there was no chimney sweep in our treatment so far.

Dick: So we said, “We’ll write a song about chimney sweeps that Mary Poppins can sing to the kids.” Initially, that’s the way we were going, but Walt in his incredible showmanship—he had a genius for these things—he listened to the song in progress . . .

Bob: . . .Walt said, “You know, we have this guy that draws pictures on the pavement and we have a one-man band and we have a fellow who flies kites—why don’t we make them all one fellow and call him Burt, and he’ll be the chimney sweep too?”

Dick: So he’s everything, a jack-of-all-trades. That character didn’t exist in the Mary Poppins book. He evolved from all those story meetings we had.

It’s such a lovely melody. Almost like an ethnic folk song.

Dick: We wanted to have a folky quality, but originally the harmonics in it were not quite as sophisticated. To be specific, it has a downward chromatic movement, a shifting major-minor sound.

Bob: I had said, “Why don’t we call it “One Chimney, Two Chimney, Three Chimney, Sweep”—that kind of rhythm.

Dick: And I said, “I think that’s dreadful,” and I left the room and I took a walk, and I came back and said, “Hey, wait a minute.” And we started playing with the word “chimney” —breaking it up.

Bob: It evolved slowly.

Dick: We had it and it was very heavy, almost with a Middle Eastern sound, and both of us started disliking it. It was a straight minor. We thought, “We’ve got to lighten this thing up. It’s English, it isn’t Russian.” So we were thinking and thinking and then we re-harmonized it, and that’s when the chromatic downward movement started in the harmony, all of a sudden the song came to life. Another thing happened. There’s only 16 bars of music. We had to have more than that—maybe a bridge, a different phrase. We were constantly tortured about that, but then we thought, “Maybe a folk song is about repetition.” So what we did was change the treatment, so sometimes it’s a recitative, sometimes it’s sung. The lyrics change every time around. It became a running theme in the movie, taking on different guises.

Having listened to Vaylu, and reading this interview, it is clear to me that somewhere the Shermans were influenced by the Old Country Tunes, and maybe had heard a few bars of Vaylu. The brain is a wonderful thing, and no doubt the tune was dredged up from a memory in their dim and distant past.Colourchem (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 22:59, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

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Links to Hush a Bye Mountain

Having watched by Mary Poppins and Chitty Chitty Bang Bang in the same week I suddenly realised that the songs Hush a Bye Mountain and Chim Chim Cher-ee have identical bass lines and harmonies.

One song is sentimental and slow, while the other is more up beat. They are written by the same composers! Great recycling of musical ideas. 86.20.178.70 (talk) 18:38, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Borrowed from Johannes Brahms?

As far as I know, there is no evidence for this, but the similarity with the Capriccio opus 76 No. 2 by Johannes Brahms is striking: the same harmony and echoes in the melody. Herbstmesse (talk) 06:59, 9 September 2024 (UTC)