Talk:China Marine Surveillance

Regarding the newly added content

I will complete the template and the tables for China Marine Surveillance patrol boats. But this work cannot be done in one day. I will fill out the information on a daily basis. Please be patient.

Overly detailed, lead

There's a lot of intricate details about ships, without too much context in the article, and no WP:LEAD. Widefox; talk 11:11, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

As I stated, I will complete the article step-by-step. It's a very large article. It's impossible to complete in a short time. I hope I can add content to it gradually. Would you please be just a little bit patient? Thanks. SummerRat (talk) 19:13, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

I created a WP:lead Widefox; talk 11:01, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Section Deployments around Senkaku Islands

Please see Talk:Senkaku Islands dispute "Suggested Rules of Engagement" which covers this topic. Primaries mainly on a section - check for NPOV / balance by adding secondaries - WP:WEIGHT - section needs NPOV check - feels like a possible WP:COATRACK / POV fork for Senkaku Islands dispute and should be OK if we leave the politics on that article, and leave this one for details of the organisation refraining on that topic, per WP:WEIGHT and above. I've linked to this article from Senkaku Islands dispute and given a heads-up here Talk:Senkaku_Islands_dispute#China_Marine_Surveillance Widefox; talk 11:27, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Section title linking etc

We don't link section titles like this edit [1] re-introduced, per WP:LINKSTYLE. Widefox; talk 18:28, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

North China Sea Fleet (CMS) =/= North Sea Fleet

(moved from my talk page) Dear Widefox, I appreciate your help on improving CMS articles I created. But CMS is a civil administration agency instead of an armed forces branch. The name should be East China Sea Fleet to distinguish itself from East Sea Fleet of PLA Navy. SummerRat (talk) 16:16, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm confused as to what you're point is...what has given you the impression I think otherwise? You may need to check the edit history to see that you're probably confusing edits from another editor with me. BTW, a link in the see also to a military article is OK, even if this is not a military article. Widefox; talk 18:28, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Another contributor has no problem in understanding my meaning when I stated in his talk page (see talk). What I mean is pretty much clear written above.SummerRat (talk) 20:00, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

The article talk pages are the right place for these content issues. Widefox; talk 22:24, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Sources

Three (most) of the sections don't have a single ref. Widefox; talk 19:54, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Proposal to remove "Japan's reaction"

This article is not mainly about CMS vs JCG; the "Japan's reaction" column in Section 5 serves little purpose and should be removed. STSC (talk) 06:15, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Oppose: I agree that it is not an article for "CMS vs JCG", but the CMS was in active engagement with the JCG in the disputed waters and the Japanese reaction is the result of CMS's operations. Listing both of them out allows readers to analyze CMS's patrol performance from multiple sources, not only from the primary source provided by the official website. lssrn45 | talk 07:55, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

By all means, include other sources as citation. This article is about Chinese CMS; the "Japn's reaction" here can only serve Japanese political interest and is not appropriate. STSC (talk) 05:59, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

I would propose moving the table to Senkaku Islands dispute under section Incidents at or near the islands. lssrn45 | talk 07:32, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

I agree to incorporate the content of the table in Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands dispute#Incidents at or near the islands in summaries (not in a table or timeline format). STSC (talk) 08:29, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

I agree to remove Japan's reaction and put them as references. But we should keep the table for recording China exercising administration over waters around Diaoyu Islands. Tiffany M-F Lee (talk) 08:18, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

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This agency has been disbanded long ago

This agency has been disbanded since 2013. The 2016 sea incident has been deleted as it is not related to the China Marine Surveillance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.200.171.199 (talk) 08:27, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

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