Talk:Chinese Communist Party
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Q1: Why is the article titled "Chinese Communist Party" when the party's official name in English is the "Communist Party of China"?
A1: The name "Chinese Communist Party" is more commonly used by reliable sources in the English language. Consensus on the current title was reached on 23 July 2020 (see discussion). As of May 2024, there have been five failed proposals to revert this decision due to a lack of policy-based arguments (i.e. pertaining to WP:MOVE) on the part of the proposers. Q2: Why are certain political ideologies and positions not included in the infobox?
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Left-right position of party
editThe party itself refers to Marxism, although its policies are different, but it could be assumed that the party's line is simply left-wing, not far left.
- The most important aspect of the analysis is it needs to start with how the balance of WP:RS describe the CPC's ideology. As a further matter, the left-right dichotomy arises from the Western political and historical context, and becomes less useful once removed from them. Our current ideology section of the infobox is much more precise and specific to the Chinese context. For further information, take look at the archives section of the talk page to see how this recurring discussion has played out in various ways over the years. JArthur1984 (talk) 17:52, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- CPC should still be relisted as Far-left as they still technically retained communism and many of its well associated elements such as Marxism afterall Communist Party of Vietnam is still listed as Far-left despite having very similar economic reformation policies to China. Mhaot (talk) 11:43, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Would you consider "far-left" to be fitting for communist parties in the political context of Vietnam, Cuba, Laos, and North Korea? If not, should the descriptor be removed from the Wikipedia articles for those parties too? TheTajik (talk) 01:46, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- It starts with how the balance of the RS on each of those frames it. It’s probably worth assessing each of those. JArthur1984 (talk) 02:35, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
Why does this article refer to the party as "CCP" and why is the title of the article "Chinese Communist Party"?
editThe following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The party is known officially as "Communist Party of China" or "CPC", so it is curious why the article utilises a name more commonly associated with propaganda against it (people saying CCP often spell it that way to draw resemblance to CCCP, the Soviet Union, or to delegitimize the party in general). Wikipedia is supposed to be impartial and neutral. Eduluzsci (talk) 16:13, 26 May 2024 (UTC) ming before
- Years ago, the page used to have the correct “CPC” formulation. This is a discussion that recurs over time and is too soon to have again though. Take a look at the page archives to see how it has developed in the past. JArthur1984 (talk) 17:47, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- Or, to put another spin on it, the name in Chinese is the "China/Chinese Communist Party," with the country name coming before "Communist Party." DOR (ex-HK) (talk) 19:45, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
About my editing
editHello Amigao! I try to use Google Translate typing Chinese words 中国共产党, it is translated to "Communist Party of China" in English. I edit it, but why does my edit has undone? Piggy Studio (talk) 02:23, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- I was the one who undid your edit. Please see the Frequently Asked Questions at the top of this talk page. Remsense诉 02:24, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- Why does Andy Boreham send a X post (formerly Tweet) to call the "Communist Party of China", and English Wikipedia formerly used "Communist Party of China" but now is "Chinese Communist Party" this word?" Piggy Studio (talk) 02:26, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- Please see the Frequently Asked Questions at the top of this talk page. Remsense诉 02:27, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- Why does Andy Boreham send a X post (formerly Tweet) to call the "Communist Party of China", and English Wikipedia formerly used "Communist Party of China" but now is "Chinese Communist Party" this word?" Piggy Studio (talk) 02:26, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- The fact that you pinged Amigao when they had zero interactions with you really says something. Yue🌙 04:37, 15 June 2024 (UTC)