Talk:Chinese Communist Party
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Q1: Why is the article titled "Chinese Communist Party" when the party's official name in English is the "Communist Party of China"?
A1: The name "Chinese Communist Party" is more commonly used by reliable sources in the English language. Consensus on the current title was reached on 23 July 2020 (see discussion). As of May 2024, there have been five failed proposals to revert this decision due to a lack of policy-based arguments (i.e. pertaining to WP:MOVE) on the part of the proposers. Q2: Why are certain political ideologies and positions not included in the infobox?
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Change the name of the article to Communist Party of China. There is no reason to use the incorrect, unofficial name. 62.57.57.235 (talk) 08:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}}template. This has been discussed at length already; scroll up. --AntiDionysius (talk) 08:34, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Add notes to Communism and Marxism in the infobox
editIn Wikipedia, we do not really care about official party stances on their ideology, but rather we analyze them and reach consensus. While its true that until 80s the party had a communist economy, since Deng Xiaoping reforms, the party do not follow communism of any nature. Instead, consensus among scholar is that the CCP has a state capitalist and pragmatic orientation.
My propose is to mark somehow in the infobox that communism and marxism are not anymore de facto ideologies of the party. This can be done with a note next to each ideology in the infobox, explaining the party turnaround in the 80s. What do you think. FCBWanderer (talk) 16:45, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- I don't recommend. First is a misunderstanding of Wiki principles: we do not ourselves analyze stances -- that's OR or SYNTH. We seek to reflect them according to due weight in reliable sources.
- I do agree with scholarly consensus of the CPC's pragmatic orientation. I don't think that works well in the infobox, however.
- There is not, however, a consensus that the CPC is "state capitalist". Although that is one interpretation among many, it falls far short of consensus.
- Overall, I do not suggest trying to achieve too much in infoboxes given the limited space and lack of room for nuance. And they are a continual breeding ground for contention. JArthur1984 (talk) 16:53, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- I also do not support such explanatory notes in the infobox solely because it sets a precedent for all political parties to have analyses and critiques in the infobox. Yue🌙 19:08, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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The redirect Rush Limbaugh/Chicom has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 6 § Rush Limbaugh/Chicom until a consensus is reached. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 16:58, 6 October 2024 (UTC)