Talk:Chris Colfer

Heifer Intl

As of March 3, 2020, Wikipedia entry states, "In November 2014, Colfer Tweeted fans to support Heifer International, which ultimately shut down in 2019." The Twitter citation is correct. The comment about Heifer International is INCORRECT.

Heifer Interational continues to exist and serve. In late 2019, they did make a decision to repurpose their Heifer Ranch site in Perryville, Arkansas, shifting the RANCH's focus to farmer education & training instead of public education. According to this linked article,

(https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2019/sep/19/heifer-ranch-close-public-oct-3-shift-farmer-focu/

the ranch neither closed nor was reduced in size, but simply ceased to be open to the public after October 3, 2019 in favor of providing more "live classroom" experiences for farmers. Reasons for the shift included the expense of operating the "global village" attraction that had been in place, and especially, the need to offer greater support to farmers in achieving HI's core purpose of ending hunger & poverty through sustainability. The Heifer Ranch will re-open to the public for certain special occasions, including their popular “lambing” weekends. In addition, according to the article, educational programming for the public will continue at Little Rock’s Heifer Village, which features interactive exhibits, and at the organization's urban farm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elariel42 (talk • contribs) 16:06, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done. Gleeanon409 (talk) 16:19, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Sexuality

Why has the fact that Chris is openly gay been taken out? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.132.88.199 (talk) 00:19, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Chris has publicly stated that he wishes to keep his sexuality private, most recently in an interview with USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2009-11-11-Colfer11_ST_N.htm and also in an interview with the Los Angeles Times (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2009/09/glee-creator-and-executive-producer-ryan-murphy-discovered-chris-colfer-but-dont-tell-the-young-actor-that-it-makes-him-feel.html). The Advocate has fallen under heavy criticism for inferring Chris's sexual orientation from a vague statement made in an interview. (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/gay-editor-urges-caution-in-outing-young-actors_1122347) Chris has not "confirmed" his sexuality, as the Wikipedia article previously stated; he has merely alluded to it. Until Chris is comfortable identifying himself as homosexual, Wikipedia cannot identify him as such.

We could entertain - maybe give it a week or two to see if it's still an issue? - adding in that the studio tried to intervene to push him back into the closet but he's already done national TV and magazine interviews talking about him being gay in context of his character being very gay. It stays in as notable and sourced content but we can look to adding that the studio tried to "in" him. -- Banjeboi 22:54, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

The Advocate made no such assumption about Colfer's sexuality; he has admitted in other interviews that he is, indeed, gay. Beggarsbanquet (talk) 01:51, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

I find the idea that somebody can 'take back' coming out completely ridiculous, but whatever rocks you guys' anal retentive boats. Misinform people all you want. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.132.88.199 (talk) 19:18, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

He's out of the closet now, and also he isn't from Fresno. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB-D5xkmkMw&feature=player_embedded —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.58.137.241 (talk) 19:19, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry;I already changed it back to "Clovis"!...HTH...Baldwin91006 (talk) 02:57, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Besides, I blame Chelsea Handler for "outing" him(it was NONE of her business anyway!), almost like what happened many years ago,k when one of the sleazy tabloids threatened to ruin former teen heartthrob Chad Allen's career by "outing" him(a similar thing happened to Neil Patrick Harris!)...Baldwin91006 (talk) 03:00, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Whatever the final consensus is, the wiki article says he's NOT gay, but then references the Chelsea Handler article stating that he IS gay. One of these should be corrected to reflect/support the other. 66.166.4.165 (talk)

In the section "Career" there's a sentence that begins "The character is also gay ..." but this occurs four paragraphs before the article mentions that the actor is gay. There's been some is-he-isn't-he edits over time, and the article is suffering a bit of awkwardness from that which could be cleaned up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikecrews (talk • contribs) 17:04, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Birthplace

There seems to be a ton of contradictory info out there. Is he born in Clovis raised in Fresno or vice versa. Need a definitive source, e.g. interview. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.64.187.9 (talk) 06:55, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

He was born in Fresno, but raised in Clovis and went to Clovis East High. Fresno and Clovis share a relationship such that Clovis is largely a very large suburb of Fresno. (Example: Many people who work in Fresno, live in Clovis and vice versa) Most of the large local hospitals are in Fresno, so it would make sense that he was technically born in Fresno, although to my knowledge has lived his whole life in Clovis. 128.12.36.43 (talk) 09:59, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Even though Clovis has its own separate school system, a few schools are within the jurisdiction of the Fresno Unified School District(including Clovis East High[I assume?])...can someone confirm that?...Baldwin91006 (talk) 01:50, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Clovis East High School is physically in the city of Fresno, and the school jurisdiction map covers a part of the Clovis area and part of Fresno area, but it is considered a Clovis Unified School. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.182.1.198 (talk) 03:57, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

I am a Fresno native and I performed with Christopher Colfer years ago at a local theater. He lived in Clovis but saying he lived in Fresno is not far off. Many of the "Clovis" schools are in Fresno, and nothing separates Fresno from Clovis: literally one side of Willow Avenue is Fresno while the other is Clovis. Also, this article states NOTHING about the Musical Theater company called Good Company Players at Roger Rockas Dinner Theater: Colfer began performing there when he was 9, performed in MANY musicals, Gypsy was his first. Most notably, he performed for years in the Junior Company which is children ages 8-16 performing a 20 minute preshow before the mainstage production. Other than that, Colfer was instrumental in other ways as well: he learned how to do the lights, and other backstage work. Leaving his time in Good Company Players out of the article is leaving out his most important, poignant performing history. He grew up in the theatre, and not giving some of his credit due to Dan and Laurie Pessano is a crime. Need I also mention that Audra McDonald also got her start here? 67.181.146.191 (talk) 22:03, 7 December 2013 (UTC) Caitlin Sawatsky

High F? My Ass.

There is a line in this article which states that Colfer, in character, "sings" a "high F." In vocal music, "high F" generally refers to sixth-octave F (2 8va + 4 above middle C). I don't care how "gay" a man is, if not castrato or debilitated developmentally otherwise, he *cannot* modally hit this note (falsetto production of "high F," while commendable, is not correctly referred to, I should think, as "singing" high F), which is not even available to all woman soprano singers. Please amend or remove. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.189.7.130 (talk) 22:53, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

You're right that the actual note they refer to is just an F5 (second F above middle C, top line in the treble clef), but I don't think they meant "high F" in the literal sense when they said it on the show so much as "a very high F for boys" (which it is, as even a lot of contraltos can't hit that note) especially considering Kurt says it's "perfectly within [his] range." I amended it to add that it's only an F5, but kept the phrase "high F" before it since that's what the show uses. Since the school choir in Glee is a show choir, not a classical choir, they tend to use more informal terms; for example, referring to Kurt as a "male soprano" when technically he'd be called a countertenor, and using "mash-up" instead of "medley." Beggarsbanquet (talk) 01:46, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

F5 is a "High F" for a post-pubescent male. The pitch clarification is useful in the context of a fictional school choir, which could include trebles who can comfortably sing at that pitch and might even be capable of hitting F6, the soprano "High F". However, "actually an F5" sounds almost as though we're pooh-poohing Colfer's ability to sing a note which is very high for a man, so I'll take out the word "actually". Contains Mild Peril (talk) 05:21, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

I think you are not understanding the discussion here. No one is saying that F5 is not a very high note for a post-pubescent male. What they are saying is that, in singing parlance, the specific phrase "high F" usually means an F6. An "actually" needs to be used there to clarify how Glee's use of the term differs from the conventional meaning. As such, I'm adding it back in. Beggarsbanquet (talk) 10:06, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

I disagree. "High F" is ambiguous without context. When discussing vocal music without gender specificity, the term could be understood to refer to F6, and would certainly be understood as F6 when discussing soprano vocals, but in the context of tenor vocals a "high F" would normally be understood as meaning F5. It could be argued that there is some ambiguity in this specific instance since the character Will Schuester cites the "high F" as a reason why he thinks the song would be more suitable for a female singer (Rachel) rather than Kurt; however I think it's still clear that he is in fact referring to the male "high F", and when quoted out of context without the complication of a female voice in the discussion, I don't think the inclusion of the word "actually" serves any useful purpose. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 13:42, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Isn't a high F an F#5 because that's the note that he sings in the show but the article says it's an F5 which I'm pretty sure the high note we worked on was an F#5 not an F5. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.55.170.113 (talk) 00:07, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Well spotted. His vocal does indeed top at F#5. The discrepancy between the stated and actual pitch is possibly because the school piano on Glee was tuned a semitone sharp. When Kurt is practising with the piano to hit the right note, his "F" is actually F# in that scene too. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 16:12, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Speech & Debate Victories

The claim that Chris won "many" speech and debate tournaments is not supported by his record with the National Forensic League (the governing body that runs most speech and debate tournaments). Membership records are publicly available, and provide a record of the number of points a member accumulated in each area (speech, debate, congress, district, national). According to Chris's profile (http://www.nflonline.org/points_application/studentprofile.php?id=1200794), he earned a mediocre number of points in speech (234 of a possible 750) and none in debate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.125.6.99 (talk) 20:21, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Chris qualified for nationals his senior year of high school but did not attend due to Glee auditions. While I would agree the wording of "won" is a stretch, I think this should be acknowledged. [ http://www.fresnobee.com/2010/07/08/1999366/clovis-east-grad-gets-emmy-nod.html Source] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.175.81.55 (talk) 05:09, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

A number of interviews have also confirmed Chris as having participated and succeeded in Speech and Debate. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBGiOgj34_Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzlUDw7qv3M I can find the original sources if necessary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.175.81.55 (talk) 23:30, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

High Vocal Range

Why is there no reference to the fact that Colfer has a very high vocal range for a male? I mean he sings like a girl (not in a bad way), JDDJS (talk) 22:58, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Do you have any WP:Reliable sources to add? CTJF83 chat 02:18, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

To honest, I'm working on other things and don't have the time to look it up, but in Glee he sings Defying Gravity and he hits a note that guys normally can't (I don't know the exact note). If someone has the time please look it up because i know sources exist. JDDJS (talk) 20:59, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

The high notes he uses in "Defying Gravity" were already in the article long before you posted this discussion item. Beggarsbanquet (talk) 10:09, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Birth Name

Why is his birth name of "Christopher" constantly being removed? His mother refers to him only as "Christopher" in countless print interviews readily available and in one voice interview that has been referenced on this page? If this is not considered reliable proof then I suggest the information about his sister's illness also be removed because the exact same video/audio interview with Karyn Colfer is used to substantiate this information and is in fact referenced at the bottom of the page. How can this interview be reliable for one thing and not the other? I would also suggest you remove any reference to his middle name of "Paul" as there is even less verifiable proof that this is his actual middle name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emacn001 (talk • contribs) 20:52, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

A youtube video isn't a reliable source, please find a better one. Can you link to at least one of these "countless print interviews"? CTJF83 chat 21:25, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, here are just two that I found in about three seconds. http://www.fanpop.com/spots/kurt-hummel-gleek/articles/48540/title/chris-colfers-journey-from-small-town-glee, http://www.fresnobee.com/2010/07/08/1999366/clovis-east-grad-gets-emmy-nod.html however, the audio interview is absolutely reliable and verifiable, and as I pointed out, is actually used as the "verifiable source" for the information on his sister's illness. If you don't think the audio interview is reliable, for whatever reason, it should not be used to verify other information. I'm only trying to help make this page as accurate as possible. I'm clearly not attempting to vandalize the page with libelous information.

Well your first link says "Opinion by Renesmee_XD", 2nd one looks ok. CTJF83 chat 21:57, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

The first one is actually an interview from the LA Times...here's a different link: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2009/09/glee-creator-and-executive-producer-ryan-murphy-discovered-chris-colfer-but-dont-tell-the-young-actor-that-it-makes-him-feel.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emacn001 (talk • contribs) 22:06, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Note when posting links on talk pages do not include <ref> or </ref> as they don't show up. Also please sign your post by typing ~~~~ CTJF83 chat 22:14, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

I have provided the sources you required. Why has the information not changed? Also, following your own rules, why has the information about Hannah Colfer's illness not been removed? The source listed (12) is the same unreliable source and same link I originally provided for the birth name.Emacn001 (talk) 04:41, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Feel free to add it with one or both of the references. CTJF83 chat 21:30, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Hey thanks. Done- although I've only changed it in the info box and you can't add references in there. Nothing else in there is referenced, so hopefully it will be alright. For the record, the ref is in the edit history box. Emacn001 (talk) 19:42, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I just added it to the lead too with your edit summary reference. CTJF83 chat 04:34, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Picture?

Hey guys, can we find a better picture? I feel this one could be improved upon. Any arguments against? 90.222.168.236 (talk) 07:17, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

What's the problem with the image? The only other freely available pictures can be seen here. Frickative 20:54, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

A more relaxed facial expression would be better for an infobox portrait than this grimacing grin which makes him almost unrecognizable in the photo. It's simply not a very typical expression for him. Of all the CC-licensed images at Flickr, I'd probably pick this one instead: [1]. Not relaxed either but mid-conversation, but perhaps better than that awkward grin. On several other CC-Flickr photos his facial expression is even better, but unfortunately they fail on technical grounds (too noisy/low-resolution). --Morn (talk) 16:33, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

P.S. How about this one instead?

--Morn (talk) 17:00, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I don't know why we need a second picture, but I think File:ChrisColfercrop.jpg is better than File:Chris Colfer by Gage Skidmore.jpg, for the reasons everyone mentioned above. --DrBat (talk) 09:21, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

You both need to stop edit warring! CTJF83 11:39, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Chris Colfer is not a countertenor

I understand that Colfer plays what is referred to as a countertenor on Glee. However in reality a countertenor is a male classical singer singing in falsetto. Calling Colfer, an actor, a countertenor is like calling Natalie Portman a ballerina because she played in the Black Swan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.213.206.175 (talk) 19:22, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

From what I see on the article, Colfer's character on Glee, Kurt, is the one who's called countertenor and not the real actor himself. Copying from the article: Colfer's first TV role came in 2009 when he was cast as Kurt Hummel on Fox's Glee. Kurt is a fashionable gay countertenor who is routinely bullied at school, not only for being gay, but also for being part of the very unpopular Glee Club. Did I miss a part where Colfer is called countertenor? TeamGale 21:29, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Some men are natural countertenors: basically, their voices do not deepen at puberty. It is pretty rare, but it does happen. And given how often Colfer has sung on the show, in his own voice, it is ridiculous to try and distinguish between his talent and the talent of the character he plays. Natalie Portman is not someone who has put in the years of training necessary to be a ballerina; Colfer has most definitely put in the years of training necessary to be a singer. TechBear | Talk | Contributions 03:22, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Chris Colfer is an actor with an unusual high speaking voice. Whatever you might say about his singing voice, it has nothing to do with countertenor. Defying gravity stays all the time to c# and there are a few notes breaking out to f# but in falsetto voice. however this has nothing to do with a countertenor in its classical meaning. A contertenor is "at home" in this range, not occasionaly hit a high note. He´s is not known for his perfomances as a singer. So please treat him as an actor not as a singer.--Giftzwerg 88 (talk) 17:58, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Adding books to "Filmography"

The idiot that keeps doing that should stop now.

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"Colfer's new projects include a series of children's books with space and UFOs as a theme." What?? Is that real!?

I think this information isn' t true. 93.200.21.92 (talk) 20:14, 20 July 2022 (UTC)