Talk:Chris Grayling

Expenses

Expenses section moved due to defammatory material —Preceding unsigned comment added by Watchkeeper4 (talk • contribs) 11:09, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

"Secret" recording was not secret

Despite several sources claiming that the answer to a question about the gay boarders dispute was "secretly" recorded, it's clearly untrue. Grayling was invited to give a speech and then answered questions from the audience. He had every reason to expect that his public statements as a politician would be recorded. Tasty monster (=TS ) 16:47, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism?

Something odd about this para. Might it be vandalism?

'Grayling had a short-lived writing career, publishing an adult book "The Big Keep" in 2011. The novel has been highly acclaimed and critics admire his foul-mouth and extensive wit. Proof-read by Grayling's wife Theresa May, "The Big Keep" is expecting its sequel "Giles et Imo" in Easter 2013.'

Grayling was never married to Theresa May. 109.154.26.148 (talk) 20:08, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

More Vandalism

At the moment, the article begins as follows:

"Chris Grayling is a Faggot national socialist and current leader of the neoliberal Conservative party. He enjoys the usual things: Injecting the marijuana, Blowing dudes at the glory hole in pretty much any truck stop. He's also a famous masochist and is co founder of the 'Spank me harder, daddy.' Sadomasochistic club in London, it's co founded by a Dutch broad he met in the red light distract of Amsterdam some 27 years ago after an affair with his wife. He began heavy drug use in his late 16's, heroin, meth, etc, this has led researches to wonder wether it's this that made him become so hopelessly retarded later on in life to which he was more than qualified to become a Tory Politician."

I am pretty sure this article has been vandalized. Oulipal (talk) 01:22, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Roman Catholic to Anglican Conversion?

From 6th Feb 2008 until 9th Nov 2010 he was listed on wikipedia as Roman Catholic, since then, with an edit was made with the IP address of the Houses of Parliament he is listed as either Anglican or Church of England. So was this very public profile incorrect during the important 6th May 2010 general election, or has Mr Grayling changed religious allegiance? If the latter is there some story there? 176.67.86.108 (talk) 17:28, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

• I have done a bit of digging to see if I can find a reference for his religion without luck. Has anyone else got one. because without a reference I think it needs to be removed from the article under the rules for biography of a living person. (Religion being a contentious issue at the best of times and Chris Grayling being a politician who sometimes has made policy decisions about the role of the church as it intertwines with the state.) Jemmaca (talk) 10:18, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Gay couples in B&Bs controversy

OK, I'm an atheist & FWIW do not believe religion should give people special rights but whilst this was well covered, does it really need to be so long? JRPG (talk) 22:01, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Lost disk & Justice department

Greetings Dtellett
Being familiar with the Official Secrets Act 1911, and seeing the media coverage from newstatesman guardian telegraph ..
and the tabloids dailymail politicshome mirror this deserves a level 3 title. Post regularly goes missing but a the loss of a document of this sensitivity is a major security breach & it should not be in the post. Grayling is responsible for the procedures which failed and there is probably no more sensitive case than this one. Thoughts? JRPG (talk) 19:53, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Sources

Please have a look at WP:RS before posting. WP:BLP applies and there are strict rules about what sources can be used Wikipedia:Suggested sources#Current news has specific UK advice. JRPG (talk) 13:04, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Private Eye

I have had something deleted. The initial removal of material was based on the statement that Private Eye is a satirical magazine; I restored the material, stating that the Eye does not just do satirical material. My restoration was then undone but with a new reason provided; I was told to "take it to talk". So I created this section. --BowlAndSpoon (talk) 20:18, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

The general tenor of Private eye is satirical, it's not a venue for "serious journalism." It's not a magazine with a "reputation for factchecking and accuracy", but instead one with a reputation for high quality satire. Brustopher (talk) 20:26, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi B&S, I watch this page & am in full agreement with Brustopher. If you can get either a specialist Law article or something from WP:Suggested sources#Current news, you are unlikely to be reverted. Regards JRPG (talk) 20:39, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Given Wikipedia's own article refers to Private Eye as a "satirical and current affairs magazine" I'm not certain how that argument stands - you only have to read things like Medicine Balls, Rotten Boroughs, Nooks and Crannies, In the City etc to see it is exactly the place for serious journalism, as you would with their special investigations, or the fact they founded (alongside the Guardian) an award for investigative journalism. Notatallrich (talk) 18:06, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Chris Grayling. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20140222203143/http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2013-14/criminaljusticeandcourts.html to http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2013-14/criminaljusticeandcourts.html

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}).

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

• If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
• If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 22:10, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on Chris Grayling. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20100515034600/http://www.number10.gov.uk/news/topstorynews/2010/05/her-majestys-government-49840 to http://www.number10.gov.uk/news/topstorynews/2010/05/her-majestys-government-49840
• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20130630052537/http://www.debretts.com/people/biographies/browse/g/21485/Chris+GRAYLING.aspx to http://www.debretts.com/people/biographies/browse/g/21485/Chris+GRAYLING.aspx

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}).

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

• If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
• If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 07:28, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Change to initial start section

> Christopher Stephen Grayling (born 1 April 1962), known widely in the press as 'Failing Grayling'[1][2][3][4][5] is a British Conservative Party politician and author serving as the Secretary of State for Transport since July 2016, and as a member of the House of Commons since 2001. He previously worked in the television industry.

1. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/08/failing-chris-grayling-is-a-method-loser-worthy-of-an-oscar-john-crace 2. https://www.theweek.co.uk/99495/should-failing-grayling-be-sacked 3. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/where-do-tory-mps-stand-on-failing-grayling-somewhere-very-painful-w7svng20l 4. https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-ferries-contract-political-mishaps-seem-to-follow-failing-grayling-11632356 5. https://www.pressreader.com/uk/yorkshire-post/20190214/282175062379665

Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Philipwhiuk (talk • contribs) 10:17, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

I don't think using a derogatory nickname for someone in the first line fulfils WP:NPOV. Absolutelypuremilk (talk) 14:42, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

I couldn't disagree with you more. The Yorkshire Post, The Guardian, The Independent, The New York Times, The Spectator, i News, Metro, the Aberdeen Journal's Evening Express and their The Press and Journal, Guernsey Press, the Daily Mail, Yahoo News, Belfast Telegraph, the Mirror, The National (Scotland), Sky News, GQ magazine, Spirit FM News (of the Bauer Media Group, based in Germany), the ITV News web-site, The Law Sociey Gazette, Reuters, Jersey Evening Post, Microsoft News, the BT news web-site, the BBC News web-site, The Manchester Evening News, ENM news (whatever that is), the Handy Shipping Guide, Huffington Post, The Herald (Scotland), Shropshire Star, Lancashire Telegraph, Transportxtra, News and Star (with The Cumberland News), Bailiwick Express, The Telegraph, Financial Times, the Hit Music Radio web-site, North-west England Mail, talkRadio (UK), Evening Standard, The Times, The Morning Star and i Dubai News, all either use, or refer to the use of 'Failing Grayling' as a moniker for Chris Grayling. He is known by that name from the Persian Gulf to the Atlantic seaboard of the USA, and at every location in between. It really is unprecedented for a 21st-Centuary British politician to attract such mockery. On the contrary; it would be a violation of WP:NPOV not to use the nickname. 86.157.165.39 (talk) 04:11, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

The lede is supposed to summarise the contents, yet currently seems shy of mentioning his actions and criticism of them while in various offices. Perhaps if the lede covered those, then including the "Failing grayling" nickname alongside might seem less NPOV. GraemeLeggett (talk) 14:55, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Incompetence as a Minister

Chris Grayling was demonstrably incompetent in every Cabinet post he occupied, leaving every area of responsibility in a worse state than before he took over. He bears more than a little responsibility for the 2024 justice crisis facing the UK. 86.187.224.61 (talk) 10:08, 10 September 2024 (UTC)