Talk:Christian observances of Jewish holidays
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edit...good idea for an article, I say. Nice. Equazcion (talk) 15:38, 29 Mar 2010 (UTC)
- Excellent. - Lisa (talk - contribs) 15:58, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Criticism
editI removed the statement by John Chrysostom, which constituted a general criticism of Christian observances of Jewish holidays, from the Feast of Trumpets section, and moved it to a new "criticism" section for now. I'd be alright with anyone removing it completely though, cause it doesn't really seem to belong in the article. There's not much information value in his statement, other than him letting everyone know that he's against it. Equazcion (talk) 08:01, 8 Apr 2010 (UTC)
- I agree. It was only there because it was in the old article Feast of Trumpets (Christian holiday) before I merged it into Rosh Hashanah. StAnselm (talk) 08:29, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
- 1. I question the source for this information. "Jews for Jesus" (the source noted in the footnote) does not equate with "the contemporary Church". 2. Perhaps "emergent" should replace "contemporary"? 3. Also, *most* Christians (1.2 billion Catholics and 300 million Orthodox) believe John Chrysostom to be a Saint, not merely a theologian. If your article claims to represent Christians, then the beliefs of the majority of Christians should be included, and most Christians do not celebrate Jewish observations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.244.32.119 (talk) 17:47, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Messianic Jews as Christian denomination
editThere is any external link for a quotation that can support the statement that includes in Christian denominations the Messianic Jews ? --FlorinCB (talk) 21:10, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
World Mission Society Church of God is not a Christian church
editThis article refers to the World Mission Society Church of God as a Christian church. It is not part of the Korean Council of Churches and has not been recognized by any reputable ecumenical Christian body as a Christian Church. It could best be categorized as a Korean neo-religion, that blends elements of older religions into something new and unique. 72.94.149.41 (talk) 20:15, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Shemini Atzeret
editI am a Jewish editor who needed to move some material on Shemini Atzeret in Christianity somewhere, so I moved it here. Let me state a couple of things:
- The amount of material originally added there was far too much (and too theological) for a page substantially about a Jewish holiday. And it felt too one-dimensional and theological to merit a separate page on "Shemini Atzeret in Christianity", especially since there isn't much evidence of current observance listed on this page.
- I drastically cut it back based on what I perceived to be the general content level of this article. If you think I have over-edited, please feel free to recover more of this from the page history of Shemini Atzeret. I am not trying to censor.
- If you think this material (either the synopsis here or a greater amount) belongs somewhere else, again please feel free; I'm not trying to cause trouble.
- The material was added by @Dworlowski, whose entire editing history consists of this one contribution. Personally, I don't know much about this, don't have ownership of this, and won't be bothered if it is deleted entirely. Again, I do not want to be accused of censoring.
- I will add a link from Shemini Atzeret to this page.
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St. Methodius of Olympus
editThe section that states that St. Methodius believed that Christians were commanded to literally observe the feast is based on a quote taken out of context. The original source (http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/062309.htm) strongly suggests that he was against the Jews for keeping the feast and though it would only be kept in the resurrection from the dead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:601:947F:B240:808A:A8B6:AE72:B78F (talk) 05:37, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
Clumsy opening sentence
editThe opening sentence is rather clumsy; I assume someone believed that including the article title in the first sentence is necessary, but MOS:BOLDTITLE makes it clear that that is not the case. May I suggest replacing Christian observances of Jewish holidays is the selective adoption of Jewish holidays into Christian religious practice, typically altered and reinterpreted to suit a supersessionist theology. with Some Christians observe select Jewish holidays as part of their religious practice, typically altering and reinterpreting their observation to suit a supersessionist theology.? (I will not be making this change myself, as I'm trying to limit my article editing.) -- Nat Gertler (talk) 01:39, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- Agreed, the original opener doesn't flow quite as well. Making some edits. Ploni💬 17:33, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
copyright violation problems
editI don't have time to handle it properly at the moment, but it looks like in October there were some slight rephrasings of portions this article from April (the parts about Levine and Greenspoon) added here. Given the amount of material that an IP editor added at that time with no reference, it is probably worth checking if more of it has been borrowed from somewhere. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 06:51, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oh, here is the Salon article from 2021 that at least the Diane Cheney, Robbie Medwed, and Kendall Vanderslice material is taken from. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 15:06, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- I have gone ahead and axed the bulk of the criticism section, due to the combination of unsourced and copyright violation. If we do merge the articles, there should be useful material to construct from in the other articles. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 18:01, 11 December 2023 (UTC)