Talk:Chrysler minivans

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Shouldn't this section be moved to a new title: Chrysler Minivan Platforms? 842U (talk) 13:42, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Requested move 16 November 2015

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The result of the move request was: moved. A good case has been made for the move and, as Nyttend notes, a split can still occur even after this page is moved. I've moved the old history at the target page to Chrysler minivan models. Jenks24 (talk) 08:18, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

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Chrysler S platform → Chrysler minivans – Content of this page is more reflective of the new title, not the current title, which reflect only 1984-1990 vehicles. SteveCof00^{My Suggestion box is open} 09:21, 16 November 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 07:17, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose instead, split apart into separate articles for each platform. WP:COATRACK article for multiple platforms should be split apart. An overview article at the proposed location with {{main}} links to each platform article would then exist as well. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 05:25, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
• Support. A coatrack situation is when one article's almost entirely written about a different subject that's only somewhat related, e.g. if the Joe Bloggs article were almost entirely written about the activities of Joe's wife. This is a simple overview of the company's minivan models. Right now, it's highly useful because we don't have additional details about the various platforms, and the amount of content about each platform isn't so large that we need to split it out, an action that would make navigation a bit slower. We can always split out a platform if it gets enough content that a split is warranted; if we did that with all of them, this article would become a useful directory page with summaries of the child articles, but until splits are needed, splitting this page would be unhelpful. Of course, we shouldn't retain this page unchanged at a title that refers only to some of the contents. Nyttend (talk) 23:07, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

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Merging the Chrysler minivan articles

Every different model of Chrysler minivan has it's own article, even when the only differences between the two is just trim and options, each with their content forked from each other with varying quality. I proposed last year that all these articles be merged into a central article named Chrysler minivans with a specific article for each generation, which I created. However my efforts were blocked and reverted, so in the end, the minivans just now have even more redundant articles! I created a request for merge on the Dodge Caravan page which has gained unanimous support. Here is what I propose:
1. Chrysler minivans being the parent article to offshoot articles for each generation: Chrysler minivans (S), Chrysler minivans (AS), Chrysler minivans (NS), Chrysler minivans (RS), Chrysler minivans (RT) and Chrysler Pacifica (RU). The Pacifica article can be named "Pacifica" since that's the only name it's sold under worldwide.
2. Dodge Caravan and Chrysler Voyager will be merged into the Chrysler minivans article.
3. Chrysler Town & Country (1941–1988) should be moved to just "Chrysler Town & Country", and that article's minivan content should be condensed into a section that links to the Chrysler minivans article.
4. Plymouth Voyager should be reduced to a short disambiguation article noting the the Plymouth Voyager nameplate has been both used as a full size van that is a rebadged Dodge Tradesman, which links to the Tradesman article, and then links to the generation of Chrysler minivans which were sold as the Plymouth Voyager: Chrysler minivans (S), Chrysler minivans (AS) and Chrysler minivans (NS).
5. Volkswagen Routan is merged into Chrysler minivans (RT), which already has a dedicated section to the Routan which is most of the main Routan's article content forked and condensed.
6. Lancia Voyager is merged into Chrysler minivans (RT).
7. Chrysler TEVan is merged into Chrysler minivans (AS).

All of these article's non-redundant content has already been collected into the articles about the respective generations. All we really have to do is merge them together. Reattacollector (talk) 23:17, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Here's a response for each proposal in the list

1. No need to rename page. There already is a Chrysler Pacifica disambiguation page. 2. Strongly Oppose Too much elimination of content. 3. Strongly Oppose The article name is due to the model recognition of the minivan, and see #2 for the latter. 4. Oppose Can see point on expanding content elsewhere on full-size version (if anywhere), but too much elimination of content 5. On the fence rather than merging, this duplication of content can be fixed through editing as well. 6. No need Article already redirects here and nearly no mention whatsoever into content. 7. Oppose While in strong need of attention, this article is of its own scope and needs to stand alone.

While there are there things that can use attention, the central Chrysler minivans should be made smaller, with content added to the offshoot articles. Dodge Caravan and Plymouth Voyager have related, but not identical, model histories, justifying keeping them. --SteveCof00 (talk) 10:01, 10 April 2018 (UTC)