Talk:Chuck season 4

How do we know Nichole Richie and "Stone Cold" Steve Austin are appearing in episode 3? --Boycool42 (talk) 00:38, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

We need a source. Who said Nicole and Stone Cold were coming in that episode? --Boycool42 (talk) 19:34, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

I can't find the original article. There's been Tweets and TwitPics from Stone Cold, Richie and Kiebler confirming they're in 4x03, but I don't think those are accepted as 3rd Party Sources. Ambaryer (talk) 01:35, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Episodes Name

Anyone care to explain what a "cubic z" or a "couch lock" is? --Boycool42 (talk) 19:38, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

This is not supposed to be a forum, but "Cubic Z" most likely stands for Cubic zirconia, aka fake diamonds; "Couch lock" is a term for being so high that you can't move anymore. _Xeworlebi ^(talk) 19:43, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

The Expendables

Much of the guest cast has ties to The Expendables and/or Arnold Schwarzenegger:

• Dolph Lundgren (whose character of Ivan Drago was mentioned in "Chuck Versus the Final Exam")
• "Stone Cold" Steve Austin
• Eric Roberts

for The Expendables, and

• Linda Hamilton
• Lou Ferrigno

to go with last season's Robert Patrick, and the Schwarzenegger reference in "Chuck Versus the First Date". Hmmm...Triviaworthy? --Boycool42 (talk) 19:54, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I would say not for the general Season 4 page. There is nothing specific to suggest any intentional reference in the choice of guest casting beyond their "Geek Cred." Such notes on these connections would be more appropriate for individual episode articles or character page entries.Ambaryer (talk) 20:31, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Volkoff

"Chuck will be facing an individual villain instead of another organization." Then why is that Volkoff Industries is involved in a 3-episode+ arc and the main storyline about Mama Bartowski? Is Volkoff himself the "individual villain" (Sidenote: Who's going to play him?)? Or is there another enemy that is yet to be revealed? --Boycool (talk) 12:49, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

I was wondering that myself. Presumably I would say Volkoff himself. He WAS specifically referenced by Marco in 4x01, so Volkoff is probably a figure akin to Blofeld or the Director. Ambaryer (talk) 14:45, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

How original...--Boycool (talk) 14:53, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Summary

I think the article should have a brief summary detailing major plot points.

Here's what I have so far:

Season four begins with Chuck searching for his estranged mother Mary at his father's last request. This eventually brings Chuck to Volkoff Industries, a nefarious organization led by a mysterious arms dealer named Alexei Volkoff. Mary continually betrays both Chuck and Volkoff, and her true allegiances remain unknown. After Mary is taken into custody by Sarah and Casey, Chuck unknowingly leads Volkoff to Mary and allows her to escape. Volkoff and Mary proceed to destroy the old Bartowski home and all of Stephen’s research before seemingly disappearing. However, Stephen leaves one of his laptops to his daughter Ellie, but its contents have yet to be revealed.

Meanwhile, the Buy More is rebuilt and comes under government control with General Beckman as manager. Initially staffed entirely by government operatives, the store's cover is rendered virtually transparent. Beckman allows Morgan Grimes to recruit the store's former staff (who remain unaware of the real circumstances) and become manager in her steed. One government operative is "Greta", an overly-efficient worker portrayed by various guest stars.

In the season premiere, Ellie learns that she is pregnant with her and Devon's first child, later revealed to be a daughter. Later, Big Mike decides to propose to Morgan's mother Bolonia. Morgan himself begins a relationship with Casey's daughter Alex, deciding that she is "the one" and Casey eventually consents. Another major subplot involves Chuck and Sarah's relationship, where they eventually consider marriage and having children.

--Boycool (talk) 19:33, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Chuck vs. the balcony

Plot: Chuck wants to propose to Sarah (his lady friend), and he has to find a nycro chip that has private CIA stuff inside the chip. As Casey is mad that he is Chuck's "man servant". After going on that mission, Sarah (lady friend) and Chuck go on another mission to let a person know that they are not rogue, and Sarah pretends to get arrested and goes to Volkoff, to take them down, and get Chuck's mom. At the end, Chuck doesn't get to propse to his lady friend. From Me, WiiRocks566 ☆ 05:15, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

IMDB source

I believe the IMDB to be a reliable source, as I have never had any problems with it before, and I have previously written summaries of episodes based on the IMDB page, every past summary has been 100% correct, so my question is, why is it not a reliable source according to some people? Please leave comments here and based on repies I will either re-add as reference or accept that it isn't reliable. G.Light (talk) 02:20, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Reliable sources are generally considered to be those with a proper editorial process; i.e. a staff that verifies it's information. IMDB (and, while we're at it TV.com) is not a reliable source because anyone can contribute to it but, unlike Wikipedia, the sources are not on display to be checked and verified. And once the information is in, it's a tedious process to try to get them to change it if reliable sources prove it to be wrong. I once personally entered into a one sided battle to get IMDB to change air dates for some season 1 episodes of Human Target, even AFTER they had already aired.
Also, other publications like SpoilerTV and most blog sites are not reliable sources because of their willingness to post second-hand, speculative or premature information. And in the instances where SpoilerTV is reliable, it's because they used a reliable source themselves, and there is usually (though not always) a link to the publication, if not the article, making it preferred to go to the original source.
Feel free to repost if you want, G., but almost every regular, experienced editor will revert IMDB if they see it used. KnownAlias contact 03:40, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

See also a recent discussion about IMDb in the MOS: #Consistency with WP:FILM. _Xeworlebi ^(talk) 05:45, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Proposed episode redirects to this article...

I have gone through each of the articles for individual episodes in season 4 and have found several episodes which do not appear to be notable enough to support their own article. Per the style guide at WP:EPISODE, if an individual television episode does not have enough reliable sources, it should not have a stand-alone article. The articles I am proposing to merge/redirect are all composed of massive, unsourced plot summaries that are entirely WP:OR. If the plot summary is stripped away, all that is left is a brief mention of a critical review (usually 1 sentence about an IGN review). Since this information is all in the excellent episode table in this main season article, I really don't think that these articles are within Wikipedia policy. Finally, since I propose to do redirects, the entire page history will remain available, so if anyone does find sources and expand the articles, the full text of the plot summary will be available in the history.

The following articles are, in my opinion, candidates for redirect:

• Chuck Versus the Suitcase
• Chuck Versus the Cubic Z
• Chuck Versus the Coup d'Etat
• Chuck Versus the Couch Lock
• Chuck Versus the Aisle of Terror
• Chuck Versus the First Fight
• Chuck Versus the Fear of Death
• Chuck Versus Phase Three
• Chuck Versus the Leftovers
• Chuck Versus the Balcony
• Chuck Versus the Gobbler

I have left additional messages on the talk pages of each article. Unless there is consensus against this, I'll start redirecting on or after 2 February, 2012. Livit⇑^Eh?/_What? 02:25, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

It saddens me to see months of my life redirected, but the notability is almost entirely non-existent and I don't have time to expand the articles. I guess I can expect 11 unused image notifications. --Boycool (talk) 03:48, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

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