Talk:Church of St Edmund, Mansfield Woodhouse
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Some suggestions
edit- Have a look at what other editors who write about buildings have done. Wikipedia is a great place to learn and get ideas. Here's a church article by a very experienced editor that shows perfectly how a church article can look, Church of St Mary le Ghyll, Barnoldswick.
- Think about the article's structure. Yours is fine, but a lot of us use the structure you see in the above article; Infobox, with map, Lead paragraph, History, Architecture, See Also, Linked Projects and Categories.
- Prose - generally, in articles, Wikipedia prefers prose to bullet points or lists. This is an example of one I did that has a few listed structures. You may get some ideas on how you could turn your bullets into prose. Also, be careful about repetition; you don't need the same phrase, "is listed by the Department for Culture, Media & Sport for its special architectural or historic interest" three times.
- Sources - You're absolutely right about the danger of over-copying from your sources, but you can usually do it by paraphrasing or re-writing.
- Photos - Photos for buildings are absolutely great, but I agree with the editor on the AfC Talkpage, that you've got rather too many. The St Mary's article above has one. And that's about right for an article of this size, maybe two at most. You've got 21!
- Related projects - think about projects/articles/lists that relate to your article. Here is Grade II* listed buildings in Nottinghamshire. You'll see your church in it (which I've linked). Then you can create other links, add extra Categories and get ideas.
- Article class - I think Start is right for this article now, but it could certainly be improved. Many editors aim for Good Article (GA) status Wikipedia:Good articles. Some go on to Featured Article (FA) Wikipedia:Featured articles, in which case a Peer Review (PR) Wikipedia:Peer review is a very good idea.
Hope some of this is helpful. All the best and good luck. KJP1 (talk) 08:01, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for the feedback
editKJP1 - this is excellent feedback, exactly wht I was hoping for!
You'll see I've added Pevsner as a source, and included some of his, not wholly complimentary, description. It looks like he took Scott's name in vain. Hope you're ok with the result. KJP1 (talk) 17:06, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
- KJP1 - Yes, I saw it. Thanks very much :-) I did some more tidying last night myself. At some point I'm going to write something about the pews I think. I saw the carvings on them at midnight mass on christmas eve, and according to english heritage research, the carvings are a major part of the reason for listing. I'll have to see if I can get a second hand copy of the Pevsner book tooEnchufla Con Clave (talk) 11:37, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
They're often on eBay for about a tenner. They are currently being revised but the new Nottinghamshire isn’t out yet. KJP1 (talk) 13:00, 29 December 2017 (UTC) KJP1 (talk) 13:00, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
Useful sources for expanding the article
editNottingham University have done a lot of thorough research for the doicese here: http://southwellchurches.nottingham.ac.uk/mansfield-woodhouse/hintro.php — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enchufla Con Clave (talk • contribs) 12:11, 29 December 2017 (UTC)