Talk:Church of St Mary Magdalene, Goldcliff

Plaque

1606
ON THE XX DAY OF IANVARY EVEN AS IT CAME TO
PAS IT PLEASED GOD THE FLVD DID FLOW TO THE
EDGE OF THIS SAME BRAS • AND IN THIS PARISH
THEARE WAS LOST 5000 AND ODD POWNDS BESIDES
XXII PEOPLE WAS IN THIS PARRISH DROWND
GOLDCLIF (JOHN WILKINS OF PILREW AND WILLIAM TAP CHURCHWARDENS 1609)

–from the 1609 plaque in the church

Placing it here until can work out where to place it in article. KJP1 (talk) 11:45, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

There's also this image of the plaque. There are a few of the church at Commons, so maybe a gallery could be employed? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:44, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I wondered about a Gallery. Do feel free to have a go, or I'll play around later. The one interior shot does indeed look rather "austere"! KJP1 (talk) 13:55, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Goodness me, you should have seen it before the rather sumptuous refurbishment... Martinevans123 (talk) 14:21, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

I've always been intrigued by the large barn door at the back of church, above the door to the vestry/bell rope in the tower. Why is it even there? Surely not to simply help install what must be a very modest bell. As a bit of an expert on churches, I expect you may well have seen this or similar features before. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:00, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Odd. A relic of the original barn? Court Farm Barn, Llanthony Priory, a service building to a monastic foundation, also has two storeys, which St Mary's may once have done. Looking at it, one can see how the basic structure could once have been a barn. An exit above a threshing floor? When I can finally get round to unpacking, I'll see what Pevsner says. KJP1 (talk) 21:41, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

I'd be very interested to hear if he ever visited or had an opinion. It's quite curious. I believe the church also had a "ting tang" bell, but I can't quite get to grips with this source. That buttress on the south side looks quite ancient and quite excessive. Why was it ever needed, I wonder. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:12, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

p.s. that image of the lime tree avenue in sunshine is really lovely. It's a simple thing that really makes the path to the church something special.

Yes, it is rather lovely and I thought warranted inclusion. I’m absolutely sure John Newman will have gone. Even though it’s “only” Grade II, he rarely, if ever, missed out a church. I look forward to being reunited with my Pevsner. KJP1 (talk) 15:31, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

I really don’t understand why the iPad puts the reply ABOVE the comment you’re replying too!!!!!!!! KJP1 (talk) 15:32, 15 February 2024 (UTC)