Talk:Citrus australasica

Aboriginal use of finger lime

The current edit says that there is "..no evidence.." of Aboriginal use of finger lime, Citrus australasica. However, I have heard that Aboriginal people used the finger lime when they had colds. It sounds similar to the way lemondrinks are used for colds. But I think we need to change the wording, assuming probable traditional use, even of not recordedd in writing, and remembering that Aboriginal knowledge is passed on via oral tradition. [John Moss] 24 Spetember 2007. —Preceding unsigned comment added by John Moss (talk • contribs) 02:32, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Assuming probable traditional use is original research - unless the assumption is supported by reliable, written sources. If a published work has speculated on the topic, then we can include that speculation. Otherwise, we should remove Wikipedia editors' speculation in either direction.

I've reviewed all the online sources listed (as at 4 August 2009):

• None say that there is no written evidence
• None speculate on probable use
• One commercial website (unreliable?) claims use of finger limes by Indigenous Australians, without providing its original source

See Australian Finger Lime Company - History, which says "The Finger Lime is native to Australia and has been used as a food source for many thousands of generations by the Australian Aboriginal people."

I didn't find any other useful online sources in a quick google search.

I don't have access to the book source: Low, Tim, Wild Food Plants of Australia, ISBN 0207143838 - we need an editor who has access to the book to confirm the information. I've placed a challenge tag on the article near the sentence on indigenous use - hopefully someone will provide a quotation from the book so we can verify. twilsonb (talk) 06:41, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I checked my copy of Tim Low's Wild Food Plants of Australia, and there is no specific reference to indigenos use, so I'm editing that out per Twilsonb's suggestion. But I have seen other articles (Erika Birmingham from recollection) that have confirmed traditional use, although I don't have access to copies, and that article does not appear to be online. Sorry, but we have to go with what we have until we locate those indigenous use references.

Overall I think this article needs to be better referenced and I will see what I can find in my books and online. Cheers.Aareo (talk) 04:57, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

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Photo of inside

It would be great if somebody could take a picture of a finger lime that's been cut open. --Taejo|대조 08:26, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Commercialization in the United States

My contribution to this article was removed on the basis that it was advertising (inaccurate). I'd appreciate guidance in modifying my addition to render it acceptable. First is my original addition followed by a modified version. "Shanley Farms started growing finger limes commercially in Morro Bay, California in 2006. In 2012 they branded their finger limes as "Citriburst Finger Limes".[6] In 2016 they introduced Citron Cavier produced with a patented process to extract the finger lime citrus pearls from the rind." "Commercial harvesting of finger limes started in the United States in 2011. The extracted pulp (juice vesicles) is retailed as citrus pearls, citrus caviar, or citron caviar."Penelope Gordon (talk) 04:01, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

References

Pulp colors

There are many images of finger lime pulp on the internet. I suggest adding one to this article to augment the photos of the whole fruit. Is a reference to a photo of the palette of pulp colors an appropriate reference?Penelope Gordon (talk) 04:18, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

References

Requested move 10 December 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to any particular title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 19:02, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

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Citrus australasica → ? – The finger lime is now in more common use and has an English name Finger Lime (fruit). Request moving page so that title can be found in English ('Use commonly recognizable names', Wikipedia uses the example guinea pig vs cavia porcellus. AustralianVoice (talk) 03:28, 10 December 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 ^{talk to me | my contributions} 12:21, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Common names are not automatically what should be used. It's the most commonly used term. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (flora). From a quick check on search engines, it does seem that finger lime is more common than Citrus australasica. However, the article's lead states the common name is "Australian finger lime," which makes me wonder about other finger limes and if the switch will just be more confusing. How many plants are called 'finger limes?' --Nessie (talk) 15:29, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

• Support – This article was originally created at "finger lime". "Finger lime" is clearly the common name, and there is no evidence of any other kind of "finger lime" that needs disambiguating from. RGloucester — ☎ 16:33, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

If there is no other finger limes, then why the two names? We don't have koalas and 'Australian koalas' --Nessie (talk) 17:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

The name "Australian finger lime" is not sourced, and should not be taken into consideration...I expect that the fruit may well be called "Australian" for marketing purposes, but that's irrelevant here. There is no other "finger lime" article on Wikipedia. RGloucester — ☎ 21:25, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

A bit of Googling turns up many, many citations for "Finger Lime". There does appear to be some marketing behind "Australian Finger Lime Tree" as the name of the plant the fruit comes from, but even in the description of those items, the fruit is always referred to as simply "Finger Lime". And even with the plant, the "Australian" part is often omitted so I'm not sure if it's just descriptive for horticulture reasons and not really part of the name. (I'm a native English speaker living in Switzerland, and here they are called "Citrons Caviar", so I think there is a strong case that these are an increasingly common and well-known fruit around the world which should use its common name as the article title. Even if the German/French names are different.) --Sam (talk) 13:19, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

• Nothing here convinces me that we should abandon the standard naming convention for plants. After all, the article itself lists two different "common" names. So I'm going to oppose the move, per the naming convention. Guettarda (talk) 15:17, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose. Multiple vernacular names, keep at scientific name per WP:FLORA. Scientific names are consistently used for 99% of plants, I don't think this species is sufficiently known by a vernacular name to warrant being an exception (and I see no evidence that readers are having any problem finding the article under it's current title). Plantdrew (talk) 20:16, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

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Non-seqitur

"By 2000 the finger lime was being sold in restaurants, including the export of fresh fruit."

What do restaurants have to do with exports? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:22F1:7010:E1C6:60E0:F313:BAB0 (talk) 16:54, 23 September 2020 (UTC)